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    <itunes:summary>The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy.  The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.</itunes:summary>
    <itunes:subtitle>The Space Show focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce, space tourism,space exploration and space development. The Space Show is committed to facilitating our becoming a space-faring nation and society with a growing and self-sustaining space-faring economy.  The Space Show also focuses on other related subjects of interest to us all.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Jeffrey Manber, Tuesday, 12-15-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Jeffrey Manber. Topics: Mir Space Station, Russian space capitalism, NASA, space commerce. Jeffrey Manber returned for this two part Space Show program to talk about his new Apogee book, "Selling Peace: Inside The Soviet Conspiracy That Transformed the U.S. Space Program." This book is available on the OGLF website as an Amazon partner so if you buy it through the OGLF site, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show. Please use www.amazon.com/dp/1926592085?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our first segment with Jeff telling us how he came to work for the Russian Space Agency. Not only is this story fascinating, its important background to the story of the Mir Space Station, MirCorp, and how what happened changed space for the best. This is a must listen to story. As you will hear, Jeff was there when Russia transformed from the Soviet Union to modern Russia and this included the shift to capitalism for just about everything, including space. Pay attention to the stark diff...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Jeffrey Manber. Topics: Mir Space Station, Russian space capitalism, NASA, space commerce. Jeffrey Manber returned for this two part Space Show program to talk about his new Apogee book, "Selling Peace: Inside The Soviet Conspiracy That Transformed the U.S. Space Program." This book is available on the OGLF website as an Amazon partner so if you buy it through the OGLF site, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show. Please use www.amazon.com/dp/1926592085?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our first segment with Jeff telling us how he came to work for the Russian Space Agency. Not only is this story fascinating, its important background to the story of the Mir Space Station, MirCorp, and how what happened changed space for the best. This is a must listen to story. As you will hear, Jeff was there when Russia transformed from the Soviet Union to modern Russia and this included the shift to capitalism for just about everything, including space. Pay attention to the stark differences with the actions and attitudes of the Russians versus NASA. As we started the second and final segment, Jeff explained the title to the book. I'm sure you will agree after listening to Jeff, reading his book, and hearing this interview, that indeed the U.S. space program was transformed. Jeff goes into some of the major players and characters. You will hear him talk about former NASA Administrator Dan Goldin, Russian Yuri Semenov, Rick Tumlinson, Walt Anderson, Dennis Tito and others. I promise, you will have a new understanding of commercial space and the relationships that today dictate activities for the ISS, the Russians, and NASA. Later in this segment, Jeff was asked about advocacy rhetoric. He pointed out that there were three influences on space, advocacy, policy, and business, and that there were significant differences among all of them. This is a discussion you do not want to miss. We also talked about cultural differences and how important it is to understand the culture of those engaged in business with you. In particular, he told one story about the Walt Anderson $7 million phone call. Don't miss it, its a really good and very funny story. Toward the end of the program, Jeff talked about his current commercial space activities with Nanorack LLC, cubesats, and the ISS. As we concluded the interview, Jeff stressed that for the future, space programs must be commercial given what is happening economically around the world and in particular in the U.S. If you want to contact Jeffrey Manber with your comments and questions, visit www.sellingpeace.com. You can use the Contact link on the website or you can post to his blog. As always, you can send your message to Jeffrey through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Jeffrey Manber. Topics: Mir Space Station, Russian space capitalism, NASA, space commerce. Jeffrey Manber returned for this two part Space Show program to talk about his new Apogee book, "Selling Peace: Inside The Soviet Conspiracy That Transformed the U.S. Space Program." This book is available on the OGLF website as an Amazon partner so if you buy it through the OGLF site, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show. Please use www.amazon.com/dp/1926592085?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our first segment with Jeff telling us how he came to work for the Russian Space Agency. Not only is this story fascinating, its important background to the story of the Mir Space Station, MirCorp, and how what happened changed space for the best. This is a must listen to story. As you will hear, Jeff was there when Russia transformed from the Soviet Union to modern Russia and this included the shift to capitalism for just about everything, including space. Pay attention to the stark differences with the actions and attitudes of the Russians versus NASA. As we started the second and final segment, Jeff explained the title to the book. I'm sure you will agree after listening to Jeff, reading his book, and hearing this interview, that indeed the U.S. space program was transformed. Jeff goes into some of the major players and characters. You will hear him talk about former NASA Administrator Dan Goldin, Russian Yuri Semenov, Rick Tumlinson, Walt Anderson, Dennis Tito and others. I promise, you will have a new understanding of commercial space and the relationships that today dictate activities for the ISS, the Russians, and NASA. Later in this segment, Jeff was asked about advocacy rhetoric. He pointed out that there were three influences on space, advocacy, policy, and business, and that there were significant differences among all of them. This is a discussion you do not want to miss. We also talked about cultural differences and how important it is to understand the culture of those engaged in business with you. In particular, he told one story about the Walt Anderson $7 million phone call. Don't miss it, its a really good and very funny story. Toward the end of the program, Jeff talked about his current commercial space activities with Nanorack LLC, cubesats, and the ISS. As we concluded the interview, Jeff stressed that for the future, space programs must be commercial given what is happening economically around the world and in particular in the U.S. If you want to contact Jeffrey Manber with your comments and questions, visit www.sellingpeace.com. You can use the Contact link on the website or you can post to his blog. As always, you can send your message to Jeffrey through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:46:22 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Robert Zimmerman, Monday, 12-14-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Robert Zimmerman. Topics: Space policy, space news, commercial space, Climategate.. Robert Zimmerman returned for this end of the year wrap up Space Show program that went overtime to two hours. In our first segment, we talked about Hubble and Bob mentioned his Hubble book as a guide to see how the government works regarding policy, congress, and tax funds. His book, "Universe in a Mirror," is available at www.amazon.com/dp/0691132976?tag=onegialeafou-20. We then focused on the SpaceShip2 rollout and the initial tests it will undergo, plus the overall commercial plans for SS2 and suborbital tourism. Bob discussed the Lunar Lander contest and contests in general. Toward the end of this segment, Mr. Zimmerman talked about Augustine and I told him about the Sen. Shelby amendment attached to the budget bill that restricts the administration as to what they can do with NASA policy for 2010. In the second segment, we picked up on the Sen. Shelby amendment and Bob considered the imp...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Robert Zimmerman. Topics: Space policy, space news, commercial space, Climategate.. Robert Zimmerman returned for this end of the year wrap up Space Show program that went overtime to two hours. In our first segment, we talked about Hubble and Bob mentioned his Hubble book as a guide to see how the government works regarding policy, congress, and tax funds. His book, "Universe in a Mirror," is available at www.amazon.com/dp/0691132976?tag=onegialeafou-20. We then focused on the SpaceShip2 rollout and the initial tests it will undergo, plus the overall commercial plans for SS2 and suborbital tourism. Bob discussed the Lunar Lander contest and contests in general. Toward the end of this segment, Mr. Zimmerman talked about Augustine and I told him about the Sen. Shelby amendment attached to the budget bill that restricts the administration as to what they can do with NASA policy for 2010. In the second segment, we picked up on the Sen. Shelby amendment and Bob considered the impact of the bill on space policy, Constellation, and overall policy. We talked about funding to the tune of billions a program that would likely be cancelled in the next budget but Bob said this was how government worked. Its an interesting discussion if not heavy on the forecasting and trying to second guess congress and the administration. Bob did speak out about congress micro-managing thee space program and drew parallels to these problems from previous NASA administrations. Later in this segment he told us why he favored international competition for space programs, not cooperation. See if you agree with him. Toward the end of the segment, we talked about commercial space, using EELVs, and if government should be doing this or buying the service from the private sector. You will hear Bob push for buying these services from the private sector. We kicked off the third and final but long segment with a discussion on Space X, Dragon, and Falcon 9. We discussed human rating EELVs and the Falcon 9 and some of the differences in doing that for the various vehicles. Toward the end of this segment, Bob brought us to problems with science and used the Climategate scandal as an example. I brought up a recent article on The Space Review that even challenged NASA Earth imaging satellites to see if they had been "tweaked" as part of the faulty science that has now been revealed through this scandal. Bob and I both talked about the need to be able to trust science and the potential damage caused to all of science, government, institutions, and organizations as a result of what we now know from Climategate. Bob talked at length on this subject so you will want to hear his comments. At the end of this segment, NewSpace was stressed as one of the bright spots in the space arena as we move toward 2010. As the show was ending, I asked Bob for an update on the bat fungus that has been destroying cave bats in the northeast. For those of you following this problem, you will be interested in this short update. If you have questions or comments for Bob Zimmerman, you can find his email address near the bottom of his website, http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3cxxp/zimbib.htm or you can forward it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Robert Zimmerman. Topics: Space policy, space news, commercial space, Climategate.. Robert Zimmerman returned for this end of the year wrap up Space Show program that went overtime to two hours. In our first segment, we talked about Hubble and Bob mentioned his Hubble book as a guide to see how the government works regarding policy, congress, and tax funds. His book, "Universe in a Mirror," is available at www.amazon.com/dp/0691132976?tag=onegialeafou-20. We then focused on the SpaceShip2 rollout and the initial tests it will undergo, plus the overall commercial plans for SS2 and suborbital tourism. Bob discussed the Lunar Lander contest and contests in general. Toward the end of this segment, Mr. Zimmerman talked about Augustine and I told him about the Sen. Shelby amendment attached to the budget bill that restricts the administration as to what they can do with NASA policy for 2010. In the second segment, we picked up on the Sen. Shelby amendment and Bob considered the impact of the bill on space policy, Constellation, and overall policy. We talked about funding to the tune of billions a program that would likely be cancelled in the next budget but Bob said this was how government worked. Its an interesting discussion if not heavy on the forecasting and trying to second guess congress and the administration. Bob did speak out about congress micro-managing thee space program and drew parallels to these problems from previous NASA administrations. Later in this segment he told us why he favored international competition for space programs, not cooperation. See if you agree with him. Toward the end of the segment, we talked about commercial space, using EELVs, and if government should be doing this or buying the service from the private sector. You will hear Bob push for buying these services from the private sector. We kicked off the third and final but long segment with a discussion on Space X, Dragon, and Falcon 9. We discussed human rating EELVs and the Falcon 9 and some of the differences in doing that for the various vehicles. Toward the end of this segment, Bob brought us to problems with science and used the Climategate scandal as an example. I brought up a recent article on The Space Review that even challenged NASA Earth imaging satellites to see if they had been "tweaked" as part of the faulty science that has now been revealed through this scandal. Bob and I both talked about the need to be able to trust science and the potential damage caused to all of science, government, institutions, and organizations as a result of what we now know from Climategate. Bob talked at length on this subject so you will want to hear his comments. At the end of this segment, NewSpace was stressed as one of the bright spots in the space arena as we move toward 2010. As the show was ending, I asked Bob for an update on the bat fungus that has been destroying cave bats in the northeast. For those of you following this problem, you will be interested in this short update. If you have questions or comments for Bob Zimmerman, you can find his email address near the bottom of his website, http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3cxxp/zimbib.htm or you can forward it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:41:07 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Ray Williamson, Sunday, 12-13-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Ray Williamson. Topics: Secure World Foundation, space debris. Dr. Ray Williamson, Executive Director of the Secure World Foundation (SWF), was the guest for this Space Show program. We started segment one by asking Dr. Williamson to provide us with an overview of SWF. As you will hear, SWF is looking at the long term sustainability of outer space. One of their main interests lies in mitigating the space debris problem and we talked about this throughout today's program. Dr. Williamson summarized the increased interest in the issue by not only the United States but also by ESA, Russia, and others. A listener asked our guest about his recent congressional testimony on the Global Space Capabilities. This discussion led to our talking about the NASA budget and political priorities as reflected in the budget. A listener asked about SSP and Dr. Williamson quickly disposed of that topic. Planetary Defense was talked about and as you will hear and was a recurring theme for this ...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Ray Williamson. Topics: Secure World Foundation, space debris. Dr. Ray Williamson, Executive Director of the Secure World Foundation (SWF), was the guest for this Space Show program. We started segment one by asking Dr. Williamson to provide us with an overview of SWF. As you will hear, SWF is looking at the long term sustainability of outer space. One of their main interests lies in mitigating the space debris problem and we talked about this throughout today's program. Dr. Williamson summarized the increased interest in the issue by not only the United States but also by ESA, Russia, and others. A listener asked our guest about his recent congressional testimony on the Global Space Capabilities. This discussion led to our talking about the NASA budget and political priorities as reflected in the budget. A listener asked about SSP and Dr. Williamson quickly disposed of that topic. Planetary Defense was talked about and as you will hear and was a recurring theme for this show. As we moved to the second segment, we continued talking about space debris and congressional testimony. Ray said that testifying before Congress was a good example of how our system works. In response to a question about our technical readiness to mitigate space debris, he said we still need more work , we are not there yet. One of the issues about space debris is that there might be a particular intervention method that is also construed as a space weapon. Nobody knows for the sure the time table for finding solutions to the debris problem but he estimated it ranged from 10-20 years. As we started the third segment, a listener asked Ray how his work as a college professor differed from his work with SWF in for example, the issue of space debris. Ray said that in teaching, knowing the audience is important and student feedback with questions was very important. His role as Executive Director at SWF is more of an activist role. He received a listener question about the statistical likelihood of our planet getting hit by something so why should planetary defense be a major issue. Ray addressed this and you will want to hear the discussion. That said, SWF allocates about 5% of its resources to the planetary defense issue. Others such as NASA are in a more appropriate position to deal with the issue differently and with more resources. Also in this segment, we talked about space policy issues, Ray's thoughts on Augustine, and we asked him for a look forward for SWF and 2010. Don't miss what he had to say about the upcoming year. To find out more about the Secure World Foundation, visit their website at www.secureworldfounation.org. For general information on SWF, please email info@swfound.org. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Ray Williamson, please email him at rwilliamson@swfound.org. To see Dr. Williamson's paper, please visit http://www.secureworldfoundation.org/index.php?id=167&amp;page=Staff_publications_and_interviews#ray.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Ray Williamson. Topics: Secure World Foundation, space debris. Dr. Ray Williamson, Executive Director of the Secure World Foundation (SWF), was the guest for this Space Show program. We started segment one by asking Dr. Williamson to provide us with an overview of SWF. As you will hear, SWF is looking at the long term sustainability of outer space. One of their main interests lies in mitigating the space debris problem and we talked about this throughout today's program. Dr. Williamson summarized the increased interest in the issue by not only the United States but also by ESA, Russia, and others. A listener asked our guest about his recent congressional testimony on the Global Space Capabilities. This discussion led to our talking about the NASA budget and political priorities as reflected in the budget. A listener asked about SSP and Dr. Williamson quickly disposed of that topic. Planetary Defense was talked about and as you will hear and was a recurring theme for this show. As we moved to the second segment, we continued talking about space debris and congressional testimony. Ray said that testifying before Congress was a good example of how our system works. In response to a question about our technical readiness to mitigate space debris, he said we still need more work , we are not there yet. One of the issues about space debris is that there might be a particular intervention method that is also construed as a space weapon. Nobody knows for the sure the time table for finding solutions to the debris problem but he estimated it ranged from 10-20 years. As we started the third segment, a listener asked Ray how his work as a college professor differed from his work with SWF in for example, the issue of space debris. Ray said that in teaching, knowing the audience is important and student feedback with questions was very important. His role as Executive Director at SWF is more of an activist role. He received a listener question about the statistical likelihood of our planet getting hit by something so why should planetary defense be a major issue. Ray addressed this and you will want to hear the discussion. That said, SWF allocates about 5% of its resources to the planetary defense issue. Others such as NASA are in a more appropriate position to deal with the issue differently and with more resources. Also in this segment, we talked about space policy issues, Ray's thoughts on Augustine, and we asked him for a look forward for SWF and 2010. Don't miss what he had to say about the upcoming year. To find out more about the Secure World Foundation, visit their website at www.secureworldfounation.org. For general information on SWF, please email info@swfound.org. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Ray Williamson, please email him at rwilliamson@swfound.org. To see Dr. Williamson's paper, please visit http://www.secureworldfoundation.org/index.php?id=167&amp;page=Staff_publications_and_interviews#ray.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:19:05 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. John Olds, Friday, 12-11-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. John Olds. Topic: Point to Pont space transportation. Dr. John Olds, Executive Director of the FastForward Study Group, was our guest today to talk about point to point space travel or high altitude and very fast transportation. In our first segment, Dr. Olds defined point to point high speed transportation. He talked about being able to go west, not just east, about using Great Circle Routes, and various city pairs that his group has been studying. We also talked about ballistic trajectories as well as partial and orbital trajectories and going west from the Northern Hemisphere. Toward the end of this segment, a listener inquired about the Blackswift project that was cancelled. Dr. Olds further commented that the NASA focus has clearly moved to human spaceflight, but that the Air Force was still working on some projects, including X-51. As we ended this segment, our guest pointed out the new commercial push, including a push for the RLV which would be a very positive add...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. John Olds. Topic: Point to Pont space transportation. Dr. John Olds, Executive Director of the FastForward Study Group, was our guest today to talk about point to point space travel or high altitude and very fast transportation. In our first segment, Dr. Olds defined point to point high speed transportation. He talked about being able to go west, not just east, about using Great Circle Routes, and various city pairs that his group has been studying. We also talked about ballistic trajectories as well as partial and orbital trajectories and going west from the Northern Hemisphere. Toward the end of this segment, a listener inquired about the Blackswift project that was cancelled. Dr. Olds further commented that the NASA focus has clearly moved to human spaceflight, but that the Air Force was still working on some projects, including X-51. As we ended this segment, our guest pointed out the new commercial push, including a push for the RLV which would be a very positive addition to point to point high speed space transportation. In our second segment, we talked about the supersonic business jets under development, how they minimize the sonic boom, their problems, speeds, and the regulatory environment that today would prevent these vehicles from flying across the United States and other areas. Dr. Olds explained some of the differences in flying supersonic, exoatmospheric and through space, ballistic and orbital. The FastForward group is looking at the various technologies and regulations that exist and would need to be modified to facilitate point to point high speed travel. In our third segment, we continued talking about supersonic business jets and learned that their estimated cost was between $80 and $100 million. The estimated cost for a hypersonic was $325 million. Development costs for the SST biz jet was around $2 billion while for the hypersonic, the development cost was estimated at $5 billion. Wealth building and job creation came into the picture given development of these projects have the potential to include public money or a public private partnership. Later in the segment, Dr. Olds suggested a commercial transportation ticket might cost upwards of $6,000 and for sending a package on one of these vehicles for same day or really quick delivery, it might be as much as $800/kg. Dr. Olds talked about the need for an arms length market study to confirm the existence of commercial markets in these areas. A listener asked about competition from video conferencing and we talked about the market for the need for face to face meetings. As we moved into the fourth and final segment, Dr. Olds pointed us to the FastForward website, www.spaceworkscommercial.com/projects/fastforward. Make sure you read the White Paper entitled, "Getting Faster," www.sei.aero/eng/papers/uploads/archive/FF_Getting_Faster_Oct2009.pdf. Once on their website, you will see many other reports and documents that are available and that you will find interesting. Dr. John Olds talked about debris patterns and fields for various spaceports and again stressed the need for a market study. Toward the end of the program, he talked about ITAR issues and customs requirements that probably need modification upon landing in another country. If you have a question or comment for Dr. John Olds, please contact him at john.olds@sei.aero.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. John Olds. Topic: Point to Pont space transportation. Dr. John Olds, Executive Director of the FastForward Study Group, was our guest today to talk about point to point space travel or high altitude and very fast transportation. In our first segment, Dr. Olds defined point to point high speed transportation. He talked about being able to go west, not just east, about using Great Circle Routes, and various city pairs that his group has been studying. We also talked about ballistic trajectories as well as partial and orbital trajectories and going west from the Northern Hemisphere. Toward the end of this segment, a listener inquired about the Blackswift project that was cancelled. Dr. Olds further commented that the NASA focus has clearly moved to human spaceflight, but that the Air Force was still working on some projects, including X-51. As we ended this segment, our guest pointed out the new commercial push, including a push for the RLV which would be a very positive addition to point to point high speed space transportation. In our second segment, we talked about the supersonic business jets under development, how they minimize the sonic boom, their problems, speeds, and the regulatory environment that today would prevent these vehicles from flying across the United States and other areas. Dr. Olds explained some of the differences in flying supersonic, exoatmospheric and through space, ballistic and orbital. The FastForward group is looking at the various technologies and regulations that exist and would need to be modified to facilitate point to point high speed travel. In our third segment, we continued talking about supersonic business jets and learned that their estimated cost was between $80 and $100 million. The estimated cost for a hypersonic was $325 million. Development costs for the SST biz jet was around $2 billion while for the hypersonic, the development cost was estimated at $5 billion. Wealth building and job creation came into the picture given development of these projects have the potential to include public money or a public private partnership. Later in the segment, Dr. Olds suggested a commercial transportation ticket might cost upwards of $6,000 and for sending a package on one of these vehicles for same day or really quick delivery, it might be as much as $800/kg. Dr. Olds talked about the need for an arms length market study to confirm the existence of commercial markets in these areas. A listener asked about competition from video conferencing and we talked about the market for the need for face to face meetings. As we moved into the fourth and final segment, Dr. Olds pointed us to the FastForward website, www.spaceworkscommercial.com/projects/fastforward. Make sure you read the White Paper entitled, "Getting Faster," www.sei.aero/eng/papers/uploads/archive/FF_Getting_Faster_Oct2009.pdf. Once on their website, you will see many other reports and documents that are available and that you will find interesting. Dr. John Olds talked about debris patterns and fields for various spaceports and again stressed the need for a market study. Toward the end of the program, he talked about ITAR issues and customs requirements that probably need modification upon landing in another country. If you have a question or comment for Dr. John Olds, please contact him at john.olds@sei.aero.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:50:50 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Peter Sage, Tuesday, 12-8-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Peter Sage. Topics: Space Solar Power (SSP), the business case for SSP. Peter Sage, a leading and well-known international entrepreneur and a Director and Principal of Space Energy was a guest for this show from Dubai. You can find out more about our guest and his company by visiting www.spaceenergy.com. Our almost two hour program was divided in two segments but because our discussion points and themes crossed over the segments, this review will not be broken down by segment. There was only one break leaving the last segment about 75 minutes in length. As we started the program, Mr. Sage put forth the case for SSP and its potential. He talked about his preliminary due diligence and the feedback received from many different sources which indicated that the technology was not the issue. Instead, closing the business case was the issue. Do not miss this discussion. As he discovered, the key economic factor, the key economic metric was the kilogram per kilowatt ratio which is im...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Peter Sage. Topics: Space Solar Power (SSP), the business case for SSP. Peter Sage, a leading and well-known international entrepreneur and a Director and Principal of Space Energy was a guest for this show from Dubai. You can find out more about our guest and his company by visiting www.spaceenergy.com. Our almost two hour program was divided in two segments but because our discussion points and themes crossed over the segments, this review will not be broken down by segment. There was only one break leaving the last segment about 75 minutes in length. As we started the program, Mr. Sage put forth the case for SSP and its potential. He talked about his preliminary due diligence and the feedback received from many different sources which indicated that the technology was not the issue. Instead, closing the business case was the issue. Do not miss this discussion. As he discovered, the key economic factor, the key economic metric was the kilogram per kilowatt ratio which is impacted by launch costs. As you will hear, by going to Thin Film Photo Voltaics, they improve efficiency, lower mass, and increase deployment size, thus they effectively lower launch costs. We continued this discussion into the second segment because we asked Peter what to took to make a quality presentation before business people to obtain capital. I urge all listeners to pay careful attention to what Peter Sage had to say about this. Its instructive for us all. In addition, his focus on solid due diligence, the business and management team and the understanding that he is working an energy company that uses space rather than a space company is very important. Also note that Peter did not come to this as a space person or a true believer in SSP. Again, this is an important distinction. Terrestrial power issues were discussed, political policy and social engineering were discussed, as well as solid economics and market solutions. Timing for SSP deployment was a focus of this discussion and as you will hear, all important. In the context of timing, his response to listener questions was on the basis of buying down the risk and cost reduction versus market and early competitive advantage. At the end of this program, Peter asked a series of questions that you will hear along with my response, all of which lead one to a rational conclusion that SSP is an important part of our future energy mix, not the entire part as Peter Sage certainly says we need all tools of energy development to address the energy issues we as a global society are going to be facing in the future. In fact he references the excellent energy study done by Mike Snead who spoke about his study on The Space Show on Jan. 9, 2009. You can hear Mike's interview about his comprehensive energy study at http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1086-BWB-2009-01-09.mp3. When visiting www.spaceenery.com, subscribe to their free newsletter. You can also hear Peter's TED presentation which is well worth your hearing, plus there are other important SSP technical and business presentations and materials on this website. If you have a comment or question for Peter Sage, you can use the contact page at http://www.spaceenergy.com/Terrestrial/contact or send your note to our guest per the address on this page. Please reference The Space Show in the subject line.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Peter Sage. Topics: Space Solar Power (SSP), the business case for SSP. Peter Sage, a leading and well-known international entrepreneur and a Director and Principal of Space Energy was a guest for this show from Dubai. You can find out more about our guest and his company by visiting www.spaceenergy.com. Our almost two hour program was divided in two segments but because our discussion points and themes crossed over the segments, this review will not be broken down by segment. There was only one break leaving the last segment about 75 minutes in length. As we started the program, Mr. Sage put forth the case for SSP and its potential. He talked about his preliminary due diligence and the feedback received from many different sources which indicated that the technology was not the issue. Instead, closing the business case was the issue. Do not miss this discussion. As he discovered, the key economic factor, the key economic metric was the kilogram per kilowatt ratio which is impacted by launch costs. As you will hear, by going to Thin Film Photo Voltaics, they improve efficiency, lower mass, and increase deployment size, thus they effectively lower launch costs. We continued this discussion into the second segment because we asked Peter what to took to make a quality presentation before business people to obtain capital. I urge all listeners to pay careful attention to what Peter Sage had to say about this. Its instructive for us all. In addition, his focus on solid due diligence, the business and management team and the understanding that he is working an energy company that uses space rather than a space company is very important. Also note that Peter did not come to this as a space person or a true believer in SSP. Again, this is an important distinction. Terrestrial power issues were discussed, political policy and social engineering were discussed, as well as solid economics and market solutions. Timing for SSP deployment was a focus of this discussion and as you will hear, all important. In the context of timing, his response to listener questions was on the basis of buying down the risk and cost reduction versus market and early competitive advantage. At the end of this program, Peter asked a series of questions that you will hear along with my response, all of which lead one to a rational conclusion that SSP is an important part of our future energy mix, not the entire part as Peter Sage certainly says we need all tools of energy development to address the energy issues we as a global society are going to be facing in the future. In fact he references the excellent energy study done by Mike Snead who spoke about his study on The Space Show on Jan. 9, 2009. You can hear Mike's interview about his comprehensive energy study at http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1086-BWB-2009-01-09.mp3. When visiting www.spaceenery.com, subscribe to their free newsletter. You can also hear Peter's TED presentation which is well worth your hearing, plus there are other important SSP technical and business presentations and materials on this website. If you have a comment or question for Peter Sage, you can use the contact page at http://www.spaceenergy.com/Terrestrial/contact or send your note to our guest per the address on this page. Please reference The Space Show in the subject line.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:37:29 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Samantha Snabes, Jason Aranha, Monday, 12-7-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: Samantha Snabes, Jason Aranha. Topics: Go Boldly Campaign, human spaceflight, NASA. Our program today focused on the Go Boldly Campaign started by young aerospace industry professionals to urge our elected representatives to provide increased funding for NASA's human spaceflight programs. Our guests, Samantha Snabes and Jason Aranha, both part of the Go Boldly Campaign in Houston, were with us to talk about this program and their respective perspectives on space development, NewSpace, NASA and our civil space program, and human spaceflight. In our first segment our guests told us about the Go Boldly organization that has about 45 members. You can visit their website and send a letter to your member of congress by going to www.goboldlynasa.org. Copy and paste their letter for your own letter to your representative. We talked about space exploration as well as the NASA science missions. Listeners asked our guests many STEM education related programs. Each guest was asked how t...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Samantha Snabes, Jason Aranha. Topics: Go Boldly Campaign, human spaceflight, NASA. Our program today focused on the Go Boldly Campaign started by young aerospace industry professionals to urge our elected representatives to provide increased funding for NASA's human spaceflight programs. Our guests, Samantha Snabes and Jason Aranha, both part of the Go Boldly Campaign in Houston, were with us to talk about this program and their respective perspectives on space development, NewSpace, NASA and our civil space program, and human spaceflight. In our first segment our guests told us about the Go Boldly organization that has about 45 members. You can visit their website and send a letter to your member of congress by going to www.goboldlynasa.org. Copy and paste their letter for your own letter to your representative. We talked about space exploration as well as the NASA science missions. Listeners asked our guests many STEM education related programs. Each guest was asked how they got into their space career. As you will hear, Jason came from Brazil where he said there was not much of a space awareness in his country so his interest came about once he was in the U.S. Samantha said she was from an underserved environment but met key people that helped her along the way with her education and more. I am sure you will find their stories fascinating as they demonstrate how one can go for a space career regardless of their environment or background. In segment two, we talked about the outreach efforts of our guests, both with the Go Boldly program as well as in their own lives to promote and discuss space development. Samantha and Jason talked about speaking with Members of Congress, even visiting their offices, along with their student outreach efforts. In segment three, we led off with our guests telling us about their social networking with Facebook and Twitter. If you are interested in following Go Boldly with these networks, note their instructions for finding them on each service. Jason spoke about the focus of NASA to explore and go to points that the private sector cannot go to at this time. Samantha talked about routine space missions which is what Earth to LEO is becoming and we all agreed that NASA should be focusing on the missions that are not routine. We talked about Ares 1 and also converting EELV to human spaceflight so you will want to hear this discussion. As the segment came to its close, Jason talked about his vision for space and Samantha talked about space benefits. NewSpace and suborbital space tourism came up and as you will hear, our guests stay in touch with and are very supportive of NewSpace. In fact as you will hear, Samantha's boss was at Mojave for the unveiling of SS2 today. If you want to find out more about Go Boldly or send an email question or comment to either of our guests, do so using info@goboldlynasa.org. Please reference The Space Show in the subject line.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Samantha Snabes, Jason Aranha. Topics: Go Boldly Campaign, human spaceflight, NASA. Our program today focused on the Go Boldly Campaign started by young aerospace industry professionals to urge our elected representatives to provide increased funding for NASA's human spaceflight programs. Our guests, Samantha Snabes and Jason Aranha, both part of the Go Boldly Campaign in Houston, were with us to talk about this program and their respective perspectives on space development, NewSpace, NASA and our civil space program, and human spaceflight. In our first segment our guests told us about the Go Boldly organization that has about 45 members. You can visit their website and send a letter to your member of congress by going to www.goboldlynasa.org. Copy and paste their letter for your own letter to your representative. We talked about space exploration as well as the NASA science missions. Listeners asked our guests many STEM education related programs. Each guest was asked how they got into their space career. As you will hear, Jason came from Brazil where he said there was not much of a space awareness in his country so his interest came about once he was in the U.S. Samantha said she was from an underserved environment but met key people that helped her along the way with her education and more. I am sure you will find their stories fascinating as they demonstrate how one can go for a space career regardless of their environment or background. In segment two, we talked about the outreach efforts of our guests, both with the Go Boldly program as well as in their own lives to promote and discuss space development. Samantha and Jason talked about speaking with Members of Congress, even visiting their offices, along with their student outreach efforts. In segment three, we led off with our guests telling us about their social networking with Facebook and Twitter. If you are interested in following Go Boldly with these networks, note their instructions for finding them on each service. Jason spoke about the focus of NASA to explore and go to points that the private sector cannot go to at this time. Samantha talked about routine space missions which is what Earth to LEO is becoming and we all agreed that NASA should be focusing on the missions that are not routine. We talked about Ares 1 and also converting EELV to human spaceflight so you will want to hear this discussion. As the segment came to its close, Jason talked about his vision for space and Samantha talked about space benefits. NewSpace and suborbital space tourism came up and as you will hear, our guests stay in touch with and are very supportive of NewSpace. In fact as you will hear, Samantha's boss was at Mojave for the unveiling of SS2 today. If you want to find out more about Go Boldly or send an email question or comment to either of our guests, do so using info@goboldlynasa.org. Please reference The Space Show in the subject line.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:58:19 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Marshall Kaplan, Sunday, 12-6-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Marshall Kaplan. Topics: Augustine, space shuttle, ISS, commercial space, orbital debris, Launchspace classes. Dr. Marshall Kaplan was our guest on The Space Show for this program which covered launch vehicles, the commercial space industry, space policy, debris removal, and Launchspace.com classes. In our first segment, we discussed some of the finding by the Augustine Commission and talked about the likely flight profile for Ares 1 and Ares 5 and inquired about heavy lift. Commercial space, EELV and NASA budgets weighed heavily on this discussion which you do not want to miss as its comprehensive. Dr. Kaplan further talked about flying the shuttle for five more years and the need to keep ISS going and how to use it more effectively. Our guest also focused on the gap regarding a period without U.S. human spaceflight and that is a serious problem. We started the second segment by learning how to reduce the cost of shuttle launches by privatizing shuttle operations and sel...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Marshall Kaplan. Topics: Augustine, space shuttle, ISS, commercial space, orbital debris, Launchspace classes. Dr. Marshall Kaplan was our guest on The Space Show for this program which covered launch vehicles, the commercial space industry, space policy, debris removal, and Launchspace.com classes. In our first segment, we discussed some of the finding by the Augustine Commission and talked about the likely flight profile for Ares 1 and Ares 5 and inquired about heavy lift. Commercial space, EELV and NASA budgets weighed heavily on this discussion which you do not want to miss as its comprehensive. Dr. Kaplan further talked about flying the shuttle for five more years and the need to keep ISS going and how to use it more effectively. Our guest also focused on the gap regarding a period without U.S. human spaceflight and that is a serious problem. We started the second segment by learning how to reduce the cost of shuttle launches by privatizing shuttle operations and selling the flights to NASA and others on a commercial basis. Listen to his plan and see what you think. The issue of NASA and aerospace industry job loss came up, especially along the Space Coast, so we talked about the space labor market now and in the future. Note that there is a serious lack of quality and exciting programs in the pipeline so there is a huge gap regarding the best use of space labor. During this segment, Dr. Kaplan outlined his preferred approach to civil space policy. Don't miss it! As we started the third and final segment, we focused on orbital debris. This is a comprehensive discussion that you should listen to as its important. Among the many important things said during this segment, Marshall pointed out the danger or red zone for debris is from 600 to 1100 KM. It is the biggest zone of concern. Listen to the discussion to find out why and what he had to say about other space altitudes, and how debris can be managed. We even talked about developing commercial businesses to undertake the problem but as you will hear, getting governments involved in this issue is not clear cut, easy, or widespread. As Dr. Kaplan said, figuring out how and who should pay for debris mitigation is a huge question. Toward the end of this segment, Dr. Kaplan talked about some of his upcoming classes that he teaches through Launchspace. Please visits www.launchspace.com for class information and more details about Dr. Kaplan and his work. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Marshall Kaplan or want to find out about his classes, please email him at mhk@launchspace.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Marshall Kaplan. Topics: Augustine, space shuttle, ISS, commercial space, orbital debris, Launchspace classes. Dr. Marshall Kaplan was our guest on The Space Show for this program which covered launch vehicles, the commercial space industry, space policy, debris removal, and Launchspace.com classes. In our first segment, we discussed some of the finding by the Augustine Commission and talked about the likely flight profile for Ares 1 and Ares 5 and inquired about heavy lift. Commercial space, EELV and NASA budgets weighed heavily on this discussion which you do not want to miss as its comprehensive. Dr. Kaplan further talked about flying the shuttle for five more years and the need to keep ISS going and how to use it more effectively. Our guest also focused on the gap regarding a period without U.S. human spaceflight and that is a serious problem. We started the second segment by learning how to reduce the cost of shuttle launches by privatizing shuttle operations and selling the flights to NASA and others on a commercial basis. Listen to his plan and see what you think. The issue of NASA and aerospace industry job loss came up, especially along the Space Coast, so we talked about the space labor market now and in the future. Note that there is a serious lack of quality and exciting programs in the pipeline so there is a huge gap regarding the best use of space labor. During this segment, Dr. Kaplan outlined his preferred approach to civil space policy. Don't miss it! As we started the third and final segment, we focused on orbital debris. This is a comprehensive discussion that you should listen to as its important. Among the many important things said during this segment, Marshall pointed out the danger or red zone for debris is from 600 to 1100 KM. It is the biggest zone of concern. Listen to the discussion to find out why and what he had to say about other space altitudes, and how debris can be managed. We even talked about developing commercial businesses to undertake the problem but as you will hear, getting governments involved in this issue is not clear cut, easy, or widespread. As Dr. Kaplan said, figuring out how and who should pay for debris mitigation is a huge question. Toward the end of this segment, Dr. Kaplan talked about some of his upcoming classes that he teaches through Launchspace. Please visits www.launchspace.com for class information and more details about Dr. Kaplan and his work. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Marshall Kaplan or want to find out about his classes, please email him at mhk@launchspace.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:26:10 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Brian Horais, Friday, 12-4-09</title>
      <link>http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25493819-Brian-Horais-Friday-12-4-09</link>
      <description>Guest: Brian Horais. Topics: Secondary payloads, R&amp; D and testing, EELV payload margins. Brian Horais was our guest today for this program. I suggest you read his recent Space Review article which was the basis for this program. You can find it at www.thespacereview.com/article/1489/1. In our first segment, Brian spoke about our space industry and its leadership challenges. He talked about risk taking, becoming too risk averse and the need for testing in space which is not done to a large degree because of the high costs and the risks involved.. The U.S. lack of innovation came up as did information on how foreign launch operations handle these issues. This brought us to the subject of secondary payloads on existing launchers and we learned that many of our EELV launches fly with excess margins because we have a mindset against secondary payloads. Brian told about the very successful Ariane ASAP program and suggested we need a program similar to it. In our second session, our guest ...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Brian Horais. Topics: Secondary payloads, R&amp; D and testing, EELV payload margins. Brian Horais was our guest today for this program. I suggest you read his recent Space Review article which was the basis for this program. You can find it at www.thespacereview.com/article/1489/1. In our first segment, Brian spoke about our space industry and its leadership challenges. He talked about risk taking, becoming too risk averse and the need for testing in space which is not done to a large degree because of the high costs and the risks involved.. The U.S. lack of innovation came up as did information on how foreign launch operations handle these issues. This brought us to the subject of secondary payloads on existing launchers and we learned that many of our EELV launches fly with excess margins because we have a mindset against secondary payloads. Brian told about the very successful Ariane ASAP program and suggested we need a program similar to it. In our second session, our guest talked about earlier programs for small payload launches, the RASCAL program for example, an F$ Phantom program, etc. A caller provided some information on his ideas in solving this problem. Brian also told us about his previous efforts to bring these issues to the attention of policy makers. Don't miss what he had to say about this. We talked about ESA and educational support as compared to NASA. In his Space Review article, Brian outlines several steps he believes would help improve the situation. We began discussing these steps at the beginning of the next segment. As we started the third segment, Brian went through his suggestions from Page 2 of his article. I suggest you read and review them. One of the ideas suggested was extensive research in the Van Allen Belts and this was discussed throughout both this and the next segment. You will want to hear this discussion. As we moved into the final segment, we talked more about testing and about the Ariane Vega small launcher program. A listener asked about suborbital as a path to orbital or a facilitator to orbital. Don't miss what our guest had to say about this. Brian repeated his message to get the word out and to keep working the issue so policy makers and businesses see the opportunity secondary payloads and low cost testing. If you want to send Brian Horais a question or comment, please use bhorais@comcast.net.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Brian Horais. Topics: Secondary payloads, R&amp; D and testing, EELV payload margins. Brian Horais was our guest today for this program. I suggest you read his recent Space Review article which was the basis for this program. You can find it at www.thespacereview.com/article/1489/1. In our first segment, Brian spoke about our space industry and its leadership challenges. He talked about risk taking, becoming too risk averse and the need for testing in space which is not done to a large degree because of the high costs and the risks involved.. The U.S. lack of innovation came up as did information on how foreign launch operations handle these issues. This brought us to the subject of secondary payloads on existing launchers and we learned that many of our EELV launches fly with excess margins because we have a mindset against secondary payloads. Brian told about the very successful Ariane ASAP program and suggested we need a program similar to it. In our second session, our guest talked about earlier programs for small payload launches, the RASCAL program for example, an F$ Phantom program, etc. A caller provided some information on his ideas in solving this problem. Brian also told us about his previous efforts to bring these issues to the attention of policy makers. Don't miss what he had to say about this. We talked about ESA and educational support as compared to NASA. In his Space Review article, Brian outlines several steps he believes would help improve the situation. We began discussing these steps at the beginning of the next segment. As we started the third segment, Brian went through his suggestions from Page 2 of his article. I suggest you read and review them. One of the ideas suggested was extensive research in the Van Allen Belts and this was discussed throughout both this and the next segment. You will want to hear this discussion. As we moved into the final segment, we talked more about testing and about the Ariane Vega small launcher program. A listener asked about suborbital as a path to orbital or a facilitator to orbital. Don't miss what our guest had to say about this. Brian repeated his message to get the word out and to keep working the issue so policy makers and businesses see the opportunity secondary payloads and low cost testing. If you want to send Brian Horais a question or comment, please use bhorais@comcast.net.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:52:22 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Howard Bloom, Tuesday, 12-1-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Howard Bloom. Topics: Space development, re-vision of capitalism, SSP, unlimited space resources. Howard Bloom returned for this nearly two hour program (without a break) to discuss his new book, "The Genius Of The Beast: A Radical Re-Vision Of Capitalism." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) Amazon Partners webpage so if you buy it, please do so here so Amazon will contribute to The Space Show. For purchase, use www.amazon.com/dp/1591027543?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our discussion with Howard giving us an introduction to his book beginning with trade from early Venice, the use of cotton and porcelain, new sailing ships, and finding trade routes to China that bypassed the traditional routes that included land caravans and more. His point in this discussion was to show that those nations that don't evolve, bring in new markets, new technology, and new ways of doing things parish over time. Developing and using space by the United States was wha...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Howard Bloom. Topics: Space development, re-vision of capitalism, SSP, unlimited space resources. Howard Bloom returned for this nearly two hour program (without a break) to discuss his new book, "The Genius Of The Beast: A Radical Re-Vision Of Capitalism." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) Amazon Partners webpage so if you buy it, please do so here so Amazon will contribute to The Space Show. For purchase, use www.amazon.com/dp/1591027543?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our discussion with Howard giving us an introduction to his book beginning with trade from early Venice, the use of cotton and porcelain, new sailing ships, and finding trade routes to China that bypassed the traditional routes that included land caravans and more. His point in this discussion was to show that those nations that don't evolve, bring in new markets, new technology, and new ways of doing things parish over time. Developing and using space by the United States was what he was talking about, especially when he introduced energy to us. This brought us to the need for SSP which we discussed many times during this program. His new book is a world civilization, history book that shows how to keep capitalism developing, evolving, and vibrantly alive. One of the important themes throughout this program and Howard's presentation was the need to look up, not down. He told several stories that you will hear that illustrate the necessity to look up. One story focused on dinosaurs and you will love it. Later in the show, he used his earlier work, associations, and friendships with Michael Jackson and others to drive home his points around vision, looking up, and more. Sustainability was discussed and again, if you want a copy of his 2006 Yale graduation speech titled "Screw Sustainability," please send me an email and I will send it to you. We talked about the need for quality STEM and history education. A listener asked about bureaucracies and this is a discussion you must hear. Howard told another great story about O2 at one time in our history being a poison in response to those claims that carbon and other elements and bacterium in our lives are toxics. He said the key is not to just realize they are today a poison or a toxic, but instead to learn to use these materials as a positive. Don't miss this important discussion. Howard pointed out that the eco movement, as important as it is, is the opposite of expanding and moving forward using space and space resources. This was discussed in various ways throughout this show and its important to hear what Howard Bloom says about this subject and movement. Even the famous Earth-rise photo and Earth Day. His book points out the need to take the soul of a business to the market, to the customer to provide what people want and to give back to the customer, the user, the buyer. He turns current models upside down and again, we associated this approach and change in perception with the need to look up, go to space, develop space, and tap space for its resources. Howard and I both agreed that at this time the West and the United States is fighting for its survival. What Howard talks about in his book is a path to continued growth, wealth development, forward progress and as you hear me say on several programs, the solution to many of our problems goes through space and Howard agreed. Listen to this show and read his book. Let him know what you think. Howard can be reached through his Facebook account by searching for him or use HowBloom. You can find him on Twitter by using HowardXBloom. Questions and comments can always be forwarded through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Howard Bloom. Topics: Space development, re-vision of capitalism, SSP, unlimited space resources. Howard Bloom returned for this nearly two hour program (without a break) to discuss his new book, "The Genius Of The Beast: A Radical Re-Vision Of Capitalism." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) Amazon Partners webpage so if you buy it, please do so here so Amazon will contribute to The Space Show. For purchase, use www.amazon.com/dp/1591027543?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our discussion with Howard giving us an introduction to his book beginning with trade from early Venice, the use of cotton and porcelain, new sailing ships, and finding trade routes to China that bypassed the traditional routes that included land caravans and more. His point in this discussion was to show that those nations that don't evolve, bring in new markets, new technology, and new ways of doing things parish over time. Developing and using space by the United States was what he was talking about, especially when he introduced energy to us. This brought us to the need for SSP which we discussed many times during this program. His new book is a world civilization, history book that shows how to keep capitalism developing, evolving, and vibrantly alive. One of the important themes throughout this program and Howard's presentation was the need to look up, not down. He told several stories that you will hear that illustrate the necessity to look up. One story focused on dinosaurs and you will love it. Later in the show, he used his earlier work, associations, and friendships with Michael Jackson and others to drive home his points around vision, looking up, and more. Sustainability was discussed and again, if you want a copy of his 2006 Yale graduation speech titled "Screw Sustainability," please send me an email and I will send it to you. We talked about the need for quality STEM and history education. A listener asked about bureaucracies and this is a discussion you must hear. Howard told another great story about O2 at one time in our history being a poison in response to those claims that carbon and other elements and bacterium in our lives are toxics. He said the key is not to just realize they are today a poison or a toxic, but instead to learn to use these materials as a positive. Don't miss this important discussion. Howard pointed out that the eco movement, as important as it is, is the opposite of expanding and moving forward using space and space resources. This was discussed in various ways throughout this show and its important to hear what Howard Bloom says about this subject and movement. Even the famous Earth-rise photo and Earth Day. His book points out the need to take the soul of a business to the market, to the customer to provide what people want and to give back to the customer, the user, the buyer. He turns current models upside down and again, we associated this approach and change in perception with the need to look up, go to space, develop space, and tap space for its resources. Howard and I both agreed that at this time the West and the United States is fighting for its survival. What Howard talks about in his book is a path to continued growth, wealth development, forward progress and as you hear me say on several programs, the solution to many of our problems goes through space and Howard agreed. Listen to this show and read his book. Let him know what you think. Howard can be reached through his Facebook account by searching for him or use HowBloom. You can find him on Twitter by using HowardXBloom. Questions and comments can always be forwarded through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <description>Guest: Howard Bloom. Topics: Space development, re-vision of capitalism, SSP, unlimited space resources. Howard Bloom returned for this nearly two hour program (without a break) to discuss his new book, "The Genius Of The Beast: A Radical Re-Vision Of Capitalism." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) Amazon Partners webpage so if you buy it, please do so here so Amazon will contribute to The Space Show. For purchase, use www.amazon.com/dp/1591027543?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our discussion with Howard giving us an introduction to his book beginning with trade from early Venice, the use of cotton and porcelain, new sailing ships, and finding trade routes to China that bypassed the traditional routes that included land caravans and more. His point in this discussion was to show that those nations that don't evolve, bring in new markets, new technology, and new ways of doing things parish over time. Developing and using space by the United States was wha...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Howard Bloom. Topics: Space development, re-vision of capitalism, SSP, unlimited space resources. Howard Bloom returned for this nearly two hour program (without a break) to discuss his new book, "The Genius Of The Beast: A Radical Re-Vision Of Capitalism." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) Amazon Partners webpage so if you buy it, please do so here so Amazon will contribute to The Space Show. For purchase, use www.amazon.com/dp/1591027543?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our discussion with Howard giving us an introduction to his book beginning with trade from early Venice, the use of cotton and porcelain, new sailing ships, and finding trade routes to China that bypassed the traditional routes that included land caravans and more. His point in this discussion was to show that those nations that don't evolve, bring in new markets, new technology, and new ways of doing things parish over time. Developing and using space by the United States was what he was talking about, especially when he introduced energy to us. This brought us to the need for SSP which we discussed many times during this program. His new book is a world civilization, history book that shows how to keep capitalism developing, evolving, and vibrantly alive. One of the important themes throughout this program and Howard's presentation was the need to look up, not down. He told several stories that you will hear that illustrate the necessity to look up. One story focused on dinosaurs and you will love it. Later in the show, he used his earlier work, associations, and friendships with Michael Jackson and others to drive home his points around vision, looking up, and more. Sustainability was discussed and again, if you want a copy of his 2006 Yale graduation speech titled "Screw Sustainability," please send me an email and I will send it to you. We talked about the need for quality STEM and history education. A listener asked about bureaucracies and this is a discussion you must hear. Howard told another great story about O2 at one time in our history being a poison in response to those claims that carbon and other elements and bacterium in our lives are toxics. He said the key is not to just realize they are today a poison or a toxic, but instead to learn to use these materials as a positive. Don't miss this important discussion. Howard pointed out that the eco movement, as important as it is, is the opposite of expanding and moving forward using space and space resources. This was discussed in various ways throughout this show and its important to hear what Howard Bloom says about this subject and movement. Even the famous Earth-rise photo and Earth Day. His book points out the need to take the soul of a business to the market, to the customer to provide what people want and to give back to the customer, the user, the buyer. He turns current models upside down and again, we associated this approach and change in perception with the need to look up, go to space, develop space, and tap space for its resources. Howard and I both agreed that at this time the West and the United States is fighting for its survival. What Howard talks about in his book is a path to continued growth, wealth development, forward progress and as you hear me say on several programs, the solution to many of our problems goes through space and Howard agreed. Listen to this show and read his book. Let him know what you think. Howard can be reached through his Facebook account by searching for him or use HowBloom. You can find him on Twitter by using HowardXBloom. Questions and comments can always be forwarded through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Howard Bloom. Topics: Space development, re-vision of capitalism, SSP, unlimited space resources. Howard Bloom returned for this nearly two hour program (without a break) to discuss his new book, "The Genius Of The Beast: A Radical Re-Vision Of Capitalism." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) Amazon Partners webpage so if you buy it, please do so here so Amazon will contribute to The Space Show. For purchase, use www.amazon.com/dp/1591027543?tag=onegialeafou-20. We started our discussion with Howard giving us an introduction to his book beginning with trade from early Venice, the use of cotton and porcelain, new sailing ships, and finding trade routes to China that bypassed the traditional routes that included land caravans and more. His point in this discussion was to show that those nations that don't evolve, bring in new markets, new technology, and new ways of doing things parish over time. Developing and using space by the United States was what he was talking about, especially when he introduced energy to us. This brought us to the need for SSP which we discussed many times during this program. His new book is a world civilization, history book that shows how to keep capitalism developing, evolving, and vibrantly alive. One of the important themes throughout this program and Howard's presentation was the need to look up, not down. He told several stories that you will hear that illustrate the necessity to look up. One story focused on dinosaurs and you will love it. Later in the show, he used his earlier work, associations, and friendships with Michael Jackson and others to drive home his points around vision, looking up, and more. Sustainability was discussed and again, if you want a copy of his 2006 Yale graduation speech titled "Screw Sustainability," please send me an email and I will send it to you. We talked about the need for quality STEM and history education. A listener asked about bureaucracies and this is a discussion you must hear. Howard told another great story about O2 at one time in our history being a poison in response to those claims that carbon and other elements and bacterium in our lives are toxics. He said the key is not to just realize they are today a poison or a toxic, but instead to learn to use these materials as a positive. Don't miss this important discussion. Howard pointed out that the eco movement, as important as it is, is the opposite of expanding and moving forward using space and space resources. This was discussed in various ways throughout this show and its important to hear what Howard Bloom says about this subject and movement. Even the famous Earth-rise photo and Earth Day. His book points out the need to take the soul of a business to the market, to the customer to provide what people want and to give back to the customer, the user, the buyer. He turns current models upside down and again, we associated this approach and change in perception with the need to look up, go to space, develop space, and tap space for its resources. Howard and I both agreed that at this time the West and the United States is fighting for its survival. What Howard talks about in his book is a path to continued growth, wealth development, forward progress and as you hear me say on several programs, the solution to many of our problems goes through space and Howard agreed. Listen to this show and read his book. Let him know what you think. Howard can be reached through his Facebook account by searching for him or use HowBloom. You can find him on Twitter by using HowardXBloom. Questions and comments can always be forwarded through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:04:34 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Wayne White, Monday, 11-30-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Wayne White. Topics: Space law and policy, orbital debris, space property rights. Wayne White, noted space attorney, returned for this nearly two hour Space Show program. In our first segment, Wayne mentioned the importance for young people pursuing a career in space law and policy. This was a recurring theme throughout today's program. Wayne then offered an update regarding the issue of space debris and current mitigation efforts. He started out listing several recent events including the January 2007 Chinese shoot down of its own satellite at 537 miles up creating about 100,000 pieces of debris. On Feb. 20, 2008, the U.S. Navy shot down our own satellite 130 miles up with most debris burning up in the atmosphere. The third event was Feb. 10, 2009 with the Iridium and Cosmos satellite collision 461 miles up, an event totally missed by the Space Surveillance Network. Toward the end of this segment, Wayne started discussing liability issues regarding these events and other pos...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Wayne White. Topics: Space law and policy, orbital debris, space property rights. Wayne White, noted space attorney, returned for this nearly two hour Space Show program. In our first segment, Wayne mentioned the importance for young people pursuing a career in space law and policy. This was a recurring theme throughout today's program. Wayne then offered an update regarding the issue of space debris and current mitigation efforts. He started out listing several recent events including the January 2007 Chinese shoot down of its own satellite at 537 miles up creating about 100,000 pieces of debris. On Feb. 20, 2008, the U.S. Navy shot down our own satellite 130 miles up with most debris burning up in the atmosphere. The third event was Feb. 10, 2009 with the Iridium and Cosmos satellite collision 461 miles up, an event totally missed by the Space Surveillance Network. Toward the end of this segment, Wayne started discussing liability issues regarding these events and other possible space events. In our second segment, our guest said space law really got started with the 1957 Sputnik launch and that it was similar to the law of the High Seas. Mr. White then referenced Articles 9 and 6 of the Outer Space Treaty. He also summarized all the five UN space treaties. He talked about how the U.S. has taken the lead in debris mitigation and that NASA was actually the first to develop debris guidelines, most of which are in the U.S. Government Standard of Practices. He summarized several of the general principles and highlighted the final solution which is Direct Retrieval. You definitely want to hear this discussion. Space Traffic Control was discussed and he directed us to an important AST website so have your pencil ready when listening to his comments. In our third segment, we continued talking about space traffic control and law, plus Wayne focused on educational paths for becoming a space attorney. We talked about the ISS Agreement which is known as the Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA). In responding to a listener question, Wayne talked about space property right. This is an important discussion and it you may be surprised as to how Wayne White suggested we deal with the issue of space property rights and what it might mean for facilitating commercial space development. Regulation and policy were major issues in this discussion, including taking positive steps such as Zero G Zero Tax. He concluded today's show by appealing to people to study to be a space lawyer and to study space law and policy. If you have comments or questions for Wayne White, please send them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com for forwarding to Mr. White.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Wayne White. Topics: Space law and policy, orbital debris, space property rights. Wayne White, noted space attorney, returned for this nearly two hour Space Show program. In our first segment, Wayne mentioned the importance for young people pursuing a career in space law and policy. This was a recurring theme throughout today's program. Wayne then offered an update regarding the issue of space debris and current mitigation efforts. He started out listing several recent events including the January 2007 Chinese shoot down of its own satellite at 537 miles up creating about 100,000 pieces of debris. On Feb. 20, 2008, the U.S. Navy shot down our own satellite 130 miles up with most debris burning up in the atmosphere. The third event was Feb. 10, 2009 with the Iridium and Cosmos satellite collision 461 miles up, an event totally missed by the Space Surveillance Network. Toward the end of this segment, Wayne started discussing liability issues regarding these events and other possible space events. In our second segment, our guest said space law really got started with the 1957 Sputnik launch and that it was similar to the law of the High Seas. Mr. White then referenced Articles 9 and 6 of the Outer Space Treaty. He also summarized all the five UN space treaties. He talked about how the U.S. has taken the lead in debris mitigation and that NASA was actually the first to develop debris guidelines, most of which are in the U.S. Government Standard of Practices. He summarized several of the general principles and highlighted the final solution which is Direct Retrieval. You definitely want to hear this discussion. Space Traffic Control was discussed and he directed us to an important AST website so have your pencil ready when listening to his comments. In our third segment, we continued talking about space traffic control and law, plus Wayne focused on educational paths for becoming a space attorney. We talked about the ISS Agreement which is known as the Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA). In responding to a listener question, Wayne talked about space property right. This is an important discussion and it you may be surprised as to how Wayne White suggested we deal with the issue of space property rights and what it might mean for facilitating commercial space development. Regulation and policy were major issues in this discussion, including taking positive steps such as Zero G Zero Tax. He concluded today's show by appealing to people to study to be a space lawyer and to study space law and policy. If you have comments or questions for Wayne White, please send them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com for forwarding to Mr. White.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:23:51 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Open Lines, Sunday, 11-29-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Open Lines. Topics: Due diligence, science peer review, individual accountability. Today's program was a two hour Open Lines program with each segment running about an hour. As the themes were the same throughout the discussion, I've not broken this description down by segment. We started the program with my brief comments reminding listeners that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. My comments were largely directed at recent SSP claims made to me in emails as well on the show, plus a few books I have previewed for authors. Our first caller was Markus from German who told us about his interesting podcasts at http://omegataupodcast.net. I recommend adding this website to your source information for space and science matters. In addition to learning about his podcasts, I asked him about space advocacy and the interest of Germans in space development, even space tourism. I suspect many of you will be surprised by what he said so I urge you to listen to his comments...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Open Lines. Topics: Due diligence, science peer review, individual accountability. Today's program was a two hour Open Lines program with each segment running about an hour. As the themes were the same throughout the discussion, I've not broken this description down by segment. We started the program with my brief comments reminding listeners that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. My comments were largely directed at recent SSP claims made to me in emails as well on the show, plus a few books I have previewed for authors. Our first caller was Markus from German who told us about his interesting podcasts at http://omegataupodcast.net. I recommend adding this website to your source information for space and science matters. In addition to learning about his podcasts, I asked him about space advocacy and the interest of Germans in space development, even space tourism. I suspect many of you will be surprised by what he said so I urge you to listen to his comments. The next caller, John from Montana, brought up the issue of science funding, selective agenda driven project funding, NSF funding and more. This became the basis for the primary theme of today's program which was how do we know what is real, objective, etc? In the scope of discussing this issue and individual accountability for doing due diligence, at least on a few issues that a person cares about from politics, health care to space development issues, many listeners participated in the discussion. Andrew in Tucson suggested following the source code to the origin and more but his suggestions require people to have skills, expertise, knowledge, and time that most of us do not have. How many of us for example can follow computer source code to its origin and verify it? As you will hear in our discussion throughout this entire show, we need effective methods to be sure we are not being mislead, lied to, given inaccurate information, or unduly influenced on policy in this or that direction. The risk in all this as we discussed was that policy gets made on bad science, bad engineering, and we often don't know the facts, only what is told to us or reported to us by agenda driven media, ill-informed media and others. We discussed the media and not relying on it, the recent leaks of the U.K's Climate Research Unit's "cooked" computer code and climate models used for predicting Earth warming and global warming trends, and the difficulty in getting funding for grants and research if the project seeking funding is not among the accepted approach to study and research. Later in the show Marshall called in to discuss ethics and engineering and then Stephen called in from Canada to talk about the downside of using the term cheap access to space when in fact the use of the word "cheap" implied too many negatives and should not be used. Instead, low cost space access or affordable space access were preferred. We then talked about the use of other cultural based terms such as the frontier and colonization versus settlement. If you want to send a comment or question to any of those that called the show today, send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person you designate. I also welcome your feedback to me. The next Open Lines program is scheduled for Sunday, Dec. 27, 12-1:30 PM PST. Remember, Open Lines programs unfold on air based on the input, calls, and topics coming from the listeners. Any and all topics are welcome and as you will hear on this show, any and all topics come up for discussion.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Open Lines. Topics: Due diligence, science peer review, individual accountability. Today's program was a two hour Open Lines program with each segment running about an hour. As the themes were the same throughout the discussion, I've not broken this description down by segment. We started the program with my brief comments reminding listeners that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. My comments were largely directed at recent SSP claims made to me in emails as well on the show, plus a few books I have previewed for authors. Our first caller was Markus from German who told us about his interesting podcasts at http://omegataupodcast.net. I recommend adding this website to your source information for space and science matters. In addition to learning about his podcasts, I asked him about space advocacy and the interest of Germans in space development, even space tourism. I suspect many of you will be surprised by what he said so I urge you to listen to his comments. The next caller, John from Montana, brought up the issue of science funding, selective agenda driven project funding, NSF funding and more. This became the basis for the primary theme of today's program which was how do we know what is real, objective, etc? In the scope of discussing this issue and individual accountability for doing due diligence, at least on a few issues that a person cares about from politics, health care to space development issues, many listeners participated in the discussion. Andrew in Tucson suggested following the source code to the origin and more but his suggestions require people to have skills, expertise, knowledge, and time that most of us do not have. How many of us for example can follow computer source code to its origin and verify it? As you will hear in our discussion throughout this entire show, we need effective methods to be sure we are not being mislead, lied to, given inaccurate information, or unduly influenced on policy in this or that direction. The risk in all this as we discussed was that policy gets made on bad science, bad engineering, and we often don't know the facts, only what is told to us or reported to us by agenda driven media, ill-informed media and others. We discussed the media and not relying on it, the recent leaks of the U.K's Climate Research Unit's "cooked" computer code and climate models used for predicting Earth warming and global warming trends, and the difficulty in getting funding for grants and research if the project seeking funding is not among the accepted approach to study and research. Later in the show Marshall called in to discuss ethics and engineering and then Stephen called in from Canada to talk about the downside of using the term cheap access to space when in fact the use of the word "cheap" implied too many negatives and should not be used. Instead, low cost space access or affordable space access were preferred. We then talked about the use of other cultural based terms such as the frontier and colonization versus settlement. If you want to send a comment or question to any of those that called the show today, send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person you designate. I also welcome your feedback to me. The next Open Lines program is scheduled for Sunday, Dec. 27, 12-1:30 PM PST. Remember, Open Lines programs unfold on air based on the input, calls, and topics coming from the listeners. Any and all topics are welcome and as you will hear on this show, any and all topics come up for discussion.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Paul Breed, Friday, 11-27-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Paul Breed. Topics: Lunar Lander Challenge (LLC), rocket technology, space vision and policy. We welcomed Paul Breed back to The Space Show to discuss his recent LLC experiences. We started our first segment with Paul giving us an update as to this year's LLC and the Unreasonable Rocket effort to win both phases, the 90 second and the 180 second phase. You can learn more about his efforts and work at his blog and website, http://unreasonablerocket.blogspot.com. Paul tells about his errors and the mistake he made in going for both phases rather than focusing on only one of the two goals. This is a most interesting and instructive discussion so don't miss it. During this discussion, Paul was asked why errors like what he was describing are so often made in rocketry and space projects. See if you concur with his answer to this question. In our second segment, Mr. Breed explained his choice of launch location and the advantages to being under the amateur launch rules. Later in th...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Paul Breed. Topics: Lunar Lander Challenge (LLC), rocket technology, space vision and policy. We welcomed Paul Breed back to The Space Show to discuss his recent LLC experiences. We started our first segment with Paul giving us an update as to this year's LLC and the Unreasonable Rocket effort to win both phases, the 90 second and the 180 second phase. You can learn more about his efforts and work at his blog and website, http://unreasonablerocket.blogspot.com. Paul tells about his errors and the mistake he made in going for both phases rather than focusing on only one of the two goals. This is a most interesting and instructive discussion so don't miss it. During this discussion, Paul was asked why errors like what he was describing are so often made in rocketry and space projects. See if you concur with his answer to this question. In our second segment, Mr. Breed explained his choice of launch location and the advantages to being under the amateur launch rules. Later in this segment, we began discussing the next step for the LLC contestants and the issues of drag and energy came up, especially in terms of going orbital for not only the LLC companies but for NewSpace in general. This is an important discussion, don't miss it. We also addressed market concepts and science payloads between 100,000 feet and LEO. See what you think about our saying the market in this area is uncertain. Paul did mention the space tourism market which may be real but is also largely unknown and will remain so until the flights starting taking place and the market unfolds. He talked about Russian rockets and how they use propellants compared to American rockets. Near the end of this segment, the questions was asked about what is new, what is advanced since the 6o's? Paul talked about electronics and the use of some composites. As we started segment three, we talked about Earth to LEO transportation and the NewSpace industry. Here Paul talked about Space X and also what was known about Blue Origin though as we all know, Blue Origin maintains very tight control over its press announcements and company information. The subject of autonomous spaceflight vehicles came up and Paul had much to say about this that was positive. Again, its an important discussion, don't miss it. We began segment four with a discussion on the commercial potential of SSP and could SSP be the needed silver bullet to drive down launch prices. Paul talked about space tourism as a silver bullet and mentioned a threatening NEO as another possible silver bullet. The subject of human spaceflight came up and we talked about it in the context of a NASA jobs program and the need to do human spaceflight exploration and exploitation. This led to a discussion about reforming and remaking NASA to more of a DARPA or NACA organization. I asked Mr. Breed for the five year vision for his company and he said he would like to be able to work on and achieve some orbital capabilities but first needs to replenish bank accounts after his LLC efforts. He said he definitely wants to do more in space with long term meaning. If you want to send a question or comment to Paul Breed, please use paul@rasdoc.com but you will have to first reply to his spam filter.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Paul Breed. Topics: Lunar Lander Challenge (LLC), rocket technology, space vision and policy. We welcomed Paul Breed back to The Space Show to discuss his recent LLC experiences. We started our first segment with Paul giving us an update as to this year's LLC and the Unreasonable Rocket effort to win both phases, the 90 second and the 180 second phase. You can learn more about his efforts and work at his blog and website, http://unreasonablerocket.blogspot.com. Paul tells about his errors and the mistake he made in going for both phases rather than focusing on only one of the two goals. This is a most interesting and instructive discussion so don't miss it. During this discussion, Paul was asked why errors like what he was describing are so often made in rocketry and space projects. See if you concur with his answer to this question. In our second segment, Mr. Breed explained his choice of launch location and the advantages to being under the amateur launch rules. Later in this segment, we began discussing the next step for the LLC contestants and the issues of drag and energy came up, especially in terms of going orbital for not only the LLC companies but for NewSpace in general. This is an important discussion, don't miss it. We also addressed market concepts and science payloads between 100,000 feet and LEO. See what you think about our saying the market in this area is uncertain. Paul did mention the space tourism market which may be real but is also largely unknown and will remain so until the flights starting taking place and the market unfolds. He talked about Russian rockets and how they use propellants compared to American rockets. Near the end of this segment, the questions was asked about what is new, what is advanced since the 6o's? Paul talked about electronics and the use of some composites. As we started segment three, we talked about Earth to LEO transportation and the NewSpace industry. Here Paul talked about Space X and also what was known about Blue Origin though as we all know, Blue Origin maintains very tight control over its press announcements and company information. The subject of autonomous spaceflight vehicles came up and Paul had much to say about this that was positive. Again, its an important discussion, don't miss it. We began segment four with a discussion on the commercial potential of SSP and could SSP be the needed silver bullet to drive down launch prices. Paul talked about space tourism as a silver bullet and mentioned a threatening NEO as another possible silver bullet. The subject of human spaceflight came up and we talked about it in the context of a NASA jobs program and the need to do human spaceflight exploration and exploitation. This led to a discussion about reforming and remaking NASA to more of a DARPA or NACA organization. I asked Mr. Breed for the five year vision for his company and he said he would like to be able to work on and achieve some orbital capabilities but first needs to replenish bank accounts after his LLC efforts. He said he definitely wants to do more in space with long term meaning. If you want to send a question or comment to Paul Breed, please use paul@rasdoc.com but you will have to first reply to his spam filter.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Alan Boyle, Tuesday, 11-24-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Alan Boyle. Topics: Pluto, solar system planets, space tourism. Alan Boyle returned as a guest to discuss his new book, "The Case For Pluto: How A Little Planet Made A Big Difference." This book is available as an Amazon partner on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website, www.amazon.com/dp/0470505443?tag=onegialeafou-20. If you order it from this OGLF Amazon link, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF. During our first segment, Mr. Boyle talked about Pluto and why it has garnered so much attention among people all over the world. Perhaps its because Pluto is small, possibly seen as an underdog planet, even having a name that makes people think of the adorable Disney pup character by the same name. Alan and I talked about perspective regarding the solar system. For example, depicting just how far Pluto is from Earth and the sun. Alan suggested we visit an excellent website that does a good job of showing this distance so do visit www.phrenopolis.com/perspecti...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Alan Boyle. Topics: Pluto, solar system planets, space tourism. Alan Boyle returned as a guest to discuss his new book, "The Case For Pluto: How A Little Planet Made A Big Difference." This book is available as an Amazon partner on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website, www.amazon.com/dp/0470505443?tag=onegialeafou-20. If you order it from this OGLF Amazon link, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF. During our first segment, Mr. Boyle talked about Pluto and why it has garnered so much attention among people all over the world. Perhaps its because Pluto is small, possibly seen as an underdog planet, even having a name that makes people think of the adorable Disney pup character by the same name. Alan and I talked about perspective regarding the solar system. For example, depicting just how far Pluto is from Earth and the sun. Alan suggested we visit an excellent website that does a good job of showing this distance so do visit www.phrenopolis.com/perspective/solarsystem/. During this segment, Alan talked about the IAU vote the took away the planet status of Pluto, the upcoming New Horizons Pluto Mission =, and the possibility for ice volcanoes and other geologic activity on Pluto. His book also discusses Planet X so we asked him about that and 2012! In the second segment, Alan was asked about the potential gravitational impact on Earth from Pluto which he said was probably not there but that Pluto does exert an influence in its neighborhood. Alan also outlined the structure and contents of his book which I strongly recommend to you for your own reading and for gift giving this holiday season. Listeners asked him for updates on JP Aerospace which he talked about and also Bussard Polywell Fusion which he addressed. Another listener asked about suborbital tourism vehicles and their flight testing profiles. Don't miss this discussion. As we started the third and final segment, Bill from Virginia asked Alan if he would be willing to let his parents, family, kids, and others close to him take a ride on the suborbital vehicles and what would he require for flight testing before saying yes. You do not want to miss his response to this question. We also talked about the Augustine Commission options and Alan indicated that we should definitely explore all the possibilities for the best way to get to space, the ISS, etc. He thought that a successful Falcon 9 launch had the potential to strongly impact the options and decisions for the best. As for NewSpace, he talked about it seeming as if we were always two years away from a commercial space tourism flight. We talked about autonomous systems and Blue Origins although Alan did not have lots of information to share with us as the company operates in a tightly controlled information environment. When asked what his next book would be about, Alan said he wanted to do a book on fusion but that he had no such book in the works as of yet. When asked what he saw ahead for space in 2010, Alan gave us perhaps the best comment of the year, listen for his exact quote but the essence of what he said was that 2010 would be a year of clarity, pivotal clarity on what reality will be! Read Alan's blog, Cosmic Log at http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/. To learn more about his book, visit www.thecaseforpluto.com. If you want to send Alan Boyle a question or comment, please do so at alan@thecaseforpluto.com and reference The Space Show in the subject line.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Alan Boyle. Topics: Pluto, solar system planets, space tourism. Alan Boyle returned as a guest to discuss his new book, "The Case For Pluto: How A Little Planet Made A Big Difference." This book is available as an Amazon partner on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website, www.amazon.com/dp/0470505443?tag=onegialeafou-20. If you order it from this OGLF Amazon link, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF. During our first segment, Mr. Boyle talked about Pluto and why it has garnered so much attention among people all over the world. Perhaps its because Pluto is small, possibly seen as an underdog planet, even having a name that makes people think of the adorable Disney pup character by the same name. Alan and I talked about perspective regarding the solar system. For example, depicting just how far Pluto is from Earth and the sun. Alan suggested we visit an excellent website that does a good job of showing this distance so do visit www.phrenopolis.com/perspective/solarsystem/. During this segment, Alan talked about the IAU vote the took away the planet status of Pluto, the upcoming New Horizons Pluto Mission =, and the possibility for ice volcanoes and other geologic activity on Pluto. His book also discusses Planet X so we asked him about that and 2012! In the second segment, Alan was asked about the potential gravitational impact on Earth from Pluto which he said was probably not there but that Pluto does exert an influence in its neighborhood. Alan also outlined the structure and contents of his book which I strongly recommend to you for your own reading and for gift giving this holiday season. Listeners asked him for updates on JP Aerospace which he talked about and also Bussard Polywell Fusion which he addressed. Another listener asked about suborbital tourism vehicles and their flight testing profiles. Don't miss this discussion. As we started the third and final segment, Bill from Virginia asked Alan if he would be willing to let his parents, family, kids, and others close to him take a ride on the suborbital vehicles and what would he require for flight testing before saying yes. You do not want to miss his response to this question. We also talked about the Augustine Commission options and Alan indicated that we should definitely explore all the possibilities for the best way to get to space, the ISS, etc. He thought that a successful Falcon 9 launch had the potential to strongly impact the options and decisions for the best. As for NewSpace, he talked about it seeming as if we were always two years away from a commercial space tourism flight. We talked about autonomous systems and Blue Origins although Alan did not have lots of information to share with us as the company operates in a tightly controlled information environment. When asked what his next book would be about, Alan said he wanted to do a book on fusion but that he had no such book in the works as of yet. When asked what he saw ahead for space in 2010, Alan gave us perhaps the best comment of the year, listen for his exact quote but the essence of what he said was that 2010 would be a year of clarity, pivotal clarity on what reality will be! Read Alan's blog, Cosmic Log at http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/. To learn more about his book, visit www.thecaseforpluto.com. If you want to send Alan Boyle a question or comment, please do so at alan@thecaseforpluto.com and reference The Space Show in the subject line.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:24:53 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Michael Belfiore, Monday, 11-23-09</title>
      <link>http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25460870-Michael-Belfiore-Monday-11-23-09</link>
      <description>Guest: Michael Belfiore. Topics: DARPA, space and technology research and development. Michael Belfiore returned to The Space Show to discuss his new book, "The Department of Mad Scientists: How DARPA Is Remaking Our World, from the Internet to Artificial Limbs." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website as an Amazon partner, www.amazon.com/dp/0061577936?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you buy the book from the OGLF site, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF. During our first segment, Mr. Belfiore provided us with a basic understanding of DARPA and its origins. He talked about developing the ARPANET in 1969 which was the beginning of the internet. During this segment, we also discussed the mission for DARPA and NASA in the early days and how each mission developed into the two modern organizations. Alternative energy and biofuels were discussed near the end of this segment as examples of current DARPA projects, along with the DARPA activi...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Michael Belfiore. Topics: DARPA, space and technology research and development. Michael Belfiore returned to The Space Show to discuss his new book, "The Department of Mad Scientists: How DARPA Is Remaking Our World, from the Internet to Artificial Limbs." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website as an Amazon partner, www.amazon.com/dp/0061577936?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you buy the book from the OGLF site, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF. During our first segment, Mr. Belfiore provided us with a basic understanding of DARPA and its origins. He talked about developing the ARPANET in 1969 which was the beginning of the internet. During this segment, we also discussed the mission for DARPA and NASA in the early days and how each mission developed into the two modern organizations. Alternative energy and biofuels were discussed near the end of this segment as examples of current DARPA projects, along with the DARPA activity in the medical field. In segment two, we continued talking about medicine with a DARPA focus to keeping people safe. Science fiction came up and you will find Michael's comparisons and comments regarding Iron Man to be most interesting. We talked about career opportunities for women and others, that DARPA researchers work for a fixed time and then move on. Also, one has to be an American citizen to work at DARPA. Michael was asked about the success rate of DARPA projects and we learned its not tracked. We also learned that DARPA researchers have permission to fail. Listen to this discussion, its most interesting. Scramjet research was introduced in this segment as was the funding for DARPA. Toward the end of the segment, autonomous auto races and vehicles came up with related technology and this discussion spilled over to the last segment. In our third and final segment, we talked about commercial spinoffs from DARPA projects, especially with cars and other vehicles. We talked about the computer environment at DARPA and the constant for the organization being change. We also talked about the differences between DARPA and NASA. Among the many listener questions, Michael was asked if DARPA did SSP research. He said he doubted it as DARPA focuses on near term projects, 2-6 years out and projects must have a commercial affordability component to them. I strongly recommend you read this book as DARPA is a very important organization impacting all our lives for the better. You can learn more about Michael Belfiore and his work at his website, www.michaelbelfiore.com. To send him an email comment or question, please use his Contact webpage and reference The Space Show, www.michaelbelfiore.com/contact.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Michael Belfiore. Topics: DARPA, space and technology research and development. Michael Belfiore returned to The Space Show to discuss his new book, "The Department of Mad Scientists: How DARPA Is Remaking Our World, from the Internet to Artificial Limbs." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website as an Amazon partner, www.amazon.com/dp/0061577936?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you buy the book from the OGLF site, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF. During our first segment, Mr. Belfiore provided us with a basic understanding of DARPA and its origins. He talked about developing the ARPANET in 1969 which was the beginning of the internet. During this segment, we also discussed the mission for DARPA and NASA in the early days and how each mission developed into the two modern organizations. Alternative energy and biofuels were discussed near the end of this segment as examples of current DARPA projects, along with the DARPA activity in the medical field. In segment two, we continued talking about medicine with a DARPA focus to keeping people safe. Science fiction came up and you will find Michael's comparisons and comments regarding Iron Man to be most interesting. We talked about career opportunities for women and others, that DARPA researchers work for a fixed time and then move on. Also, one has to be an American citizen to work at DARPA. Michael was asked about the success rate of DARPA projects and we learned its not tracked. We also learned that DARPA researchers have permission to fail. Listen to this discussion, its most interesting. Scramjet research was introduced in this segment as was the funding for DARPA. Toward the end of the segment, autonomous auto races and vehicles came up with related technology and this discussion spilled over to the last segment. In our third and final segment, we talked about commercial spinoffs from DARPA projects, especially with cars and other vehicles. We talked about the computer environment at DARPA and the constant for the organization being change. We also talked about the differences between DARPA and NASA. Among the many listener questions, Michael was asked if DARPA did SSP research. He said he doubted it as DARPA focuses on near term projects, 2-6 years out and projects must have a commercial affordability component to them. I strongly recommend you read this book as DARPA is a very important organization impacting all our lives for the better. You can learn more about Michael Belfiore and his work at his website, www.michaelbelfiore.com. To send him an email comment or question, please use his Contact webpage and reference The Space Show, www.michaelbelfiore.com/contact.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:58:05 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Jim Crisafulli, Sunday, 11-22-09</title>
      <link>http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25460874-Jim-Crisafulli-Sunday-11-22-09</link>
      <description>Guest: Jim Crisafulli. Topics: Hawaii commercial spaceport, aerospace development and commerce. We welcomed Jim Crisafulli, Director of the Hawaiian Office of Aerospace Development to the show. In our first segment, we focused on Hawaii's plan to develop a commercial spaceport to service spaceplanes for space tourism. We learned that Hawaii is in the process of preparing for an environmental assessment regarding expanding the usage of several of their commercial airports to include the horizontal takeoff and landing of a spaceplane. As you will hear, this will enable Hawaii to have several spaceports without having to incur the cost for significant new infrastructure. We talked about the possibility of local opposition to any new development or expansion plans and the hope that the environmental assessment will suffice so that they do not have to go through a full EIR. Timing is estimated to take up to three years once Hawaii starts the environmental assessment which they have not y...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Jim Crisafulli. Topics: Hawaii commercial spaceport, aerospace development and commerce. We welcomed Jim Crisafulli, Director of the Hawaiian Office of Aerospace Development to the show. In our first segment, we focused on Hawaii's plan to develop a commercial spaceport to service spaceplanes for space tourism. We learned that Hawaii is in the process of preparing for an environmental assessment regarding expanding the usage of several of their commercial airports to include the horizontal takeoff and landing of a spaceplane. As you will hear, this will enable Hawaii to have several spaceports without having to incur the cost for significant new infrastructure. We talked about the possibility of local opposition to any new development or expansion plans and the hope that the environmental assessment will suffice so that they do not have to go through a full EIR. Timing is estimated to take up to three years once Hawaii starts the environmental assessment which they have not yet commenced. Jim also talked about the long term prospects for space tourism. As we neared the end of the initial segment, we talked about the larger Hawaiian aerospace industry, the aerospace innovations on the various islands, and Hawaii serving as a bridge to important and prolific Asian-Pacific Markets. Jim addressed the space awareness level of Hawaiians. In our second segment, Jim received some questions that were skeptical about the market and future for space tourism, especially suborbital tourism. He said there were lots of questions but that it was a matter of when, not if. He received several questions asking him to clarify the commercial spaceport plans and again he said they were going to expand the use of some of their main airports and that the cost should be about $350-500K for the environmental assessment report. He elaborated from the first segment and said there would need to be new fuel, hangers, and other facilities for the spaceplanes, but there plan did not require any actual infrastructure for the takeoff and landing of the spaceplanes. He also pointed out that from Hawaii there could be orbital flights, not just up and down flights as going east would not be a problem from a commercial spaceport on any of the islands. He was asked about liability limiting legislation as what is in place in other states and he said they were aware of such legislation but that the actual discussion on adopting such measures was premature. Jim then talked about the Pacific International Space Center for Exploration Systems (PISCES), and Hawaii's relationship with the other Asian-Pacific nations. He talked about SSP and recent beaming experiments held in Hawaii. In our third and final segment, listeners wanted to know if Hawaii was using an existing spaceport as their business model, specifically Burns Flat in Oklahoma or Mojave. He said no to using any spaceport as a model but that Mojave was closest to what they want to do given that Mojave was an operating commercial airport. In response to another listener's question, he said that aerospace development enjoyed bi-partisan support within the Hawaii legislature. He also mentioned the need for long term and strategic planning for the state. He said aerospace development has to be open minded and collaborative. A student asked him about job prospects for grad students in the Hawaiian aerospace industry and Jim suggested that interested parties send him a short letter and their resume and he would see what help could be offered. At the end of the show, in response to my question about future atmospheric and light pollution in the state that would impact their observatories, he said that they had passed a state law for dark skies, the Starlight Reserve State Lighting Bill. If you have a question or comment for Jim Crisafulli, you can email him at JCrisafu@dbedt.hawaii.gov.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Jim Crisafulli. Topics: Hawaii commercial spaceport, aerospace development and commerce. We welcomed Jim Crisafulli, Director of the Hawaiian Office of Aerospace Development to the show. In our first segment, we focused on Hawaii's plan to develop a commercial spaceport to service spaceplanes for space tourism. We learned that Hawaii is in the process of preparing for an environmental assessment regarding expanding the usage of several of their commercial airports to include the horizontal takeoff and landing of a spaceplane. As you will hear, this will enable Hawaii to have several spaceports without having to incur the cost for significant new infrastructure. We talked about the possibility of local opposition to any new development or expansion plans and the hope that the environmental assessment will suffice so that they do not have to go through a full EIR. Timing is estimated to take up to three years once Hawaii starts the environmental assessment which they have not yet commenced. Jim also talked about the long term prospects for space tourism. As we neared the end of the initial segment, we talked about the larger Hawaiian aerospace industry, the aerospace innovations on the various islands, and Hawaii serving as a bridge to important and prolific Asian-Pacific Markets. Jim addressed the space awareness level of Hawaiians. In our second segment, Jim received some questions that were skeptical about the market and future for space tourism, especially suborbital tourism. He said there were lots of questions but that it was a matter of when, not if. He received several questions asking him to clarify the commercial spaceport plans and again he said they were going to expand the use of some of their main airports and that the cost should be about $350-500K for the environmental assessment report. He elaborated from the first segment and said there would need to be new fuel, hangers, and other facilities for the spaceplanes, but there plan did not require any actual infrastructure for the takeoff and landing of the spaceplanes. He also pointed out that from Hawaii there could be orbital flights, not just up and down flights as going east would not be a problem from a commercial spaceport on any of the islands. He was asked about liability limiting legislation as what is in place in other states and he said they were aware of such legislation but that the actual discussion on adopting such measures was premature. Jim then talked about the Pacific International Space Center for Exploration Systems (PISCES), and Hawaii's relationship with the other Asian-Pacific nations. He talked about SSP and recent beaming experiments held in Hawaii. In our third and final segment, listeners wanted to know if Hawaii was using an existing spaceport as their business model, specifically Burns Flat in Oklahoma or Mojave. He said no to using any spaceport as a model but that Mojave was closest to what they want to do given that Mojave was an operating commercial airport. In response to another listener's question, he said that aerospace development enjoyed bi-partisan support within the Hawaii legislature. He also mentioned the need for long term and strategic planning for the state. He said aerospace development has to be open minded and collaborative. A student asked him about job prospects for grad students in the Hawaiian aerospace industry and Jim suggested that interested parties send him a short letter and their resume and he would see what help could be offered. At the end of the show, in response to my question about future atmospheric and light pollution in the state that would impact their observatories, he said that they had passed a state law for dark skies, the Starlight Reserve State Lighting Bill. If you have a question or comment for Jim Crisafulli, you can email him at JCrisafu@dbedt.hawaii.gov.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:09:16 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Jim Vedda, Friday, 11-20-09</title>
      <link>http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25460875-Dr-Jim-Vedda-Friday-11-20-09</link>
      <description>Guest: Dr. Jim Vedda. Topics: Space policy and goals. We were most fortunate to have as our guest for this program, Dr. Jim Vedda. Our two hour discussion was wide ranging over many aspects of both U.S. and global space policy. In our first segment, Dr. Vedda talked about the "why" of space policy in the final chapter of the Augustine Commission Report but suggested this information relating to the goals of our space program should have been at the front of the report given its importance. This opened up our discussion on space goals being about our capability, not a destination. He suggested we go where resources are and where we can solve problems. Thus, the goal is about being capable to do something that is meaningful and important, not about the location or destination. He provided us with several examples form Apollo, JFK himself, the early days of communication satellites, and robotic space exploration. I also brought up Mars by 2019 for his commentary so you will certainly w...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Jim Vedda. Topics: Space policy and goals. We were most fortunate to have as our guest for this program, Dr. Jim Vedda. Our two hour discussion was wide ranging over many aspects of both U.S. and global space policy. In our first segment, Dr. Vedda talked about the "why" of space policy in the final chapter of the Augustine Commission Report but suggested this information relating to the goals of our space program should have been at the front of the report given its importance. This opened up our discussion on space goals being about our capability, not a destination. He suggested we go where resources are and where we can solve problems. Thus, the goal is about being capable to do something that is meaningful and important, not about the location or destination. He provided us with several examples form Apollo, JFK himself, the early days of communication satellites, and robotic space exploration. I also brought up Mars by 2019 for his commentary so you will certainly want to listen carefully to what Dr. Vedda had to say about the importance of space goals. As we started our second segment, we talked about the need for good public and private partnerships for space exploration and development. Dr. Vedda referred to the old NACA model, saying NASA should enable us to go to the stars, not necessarily lead us to the stars. We talked about the NASA workforce and jobs, infrastructure assets and more, all in the context of the NACA model. Opportunity costs were brought into the discussion and fusion power served as an illustration of this concept. Dr. Vedda introduced us to long term thinking and strategy in this segment. In the third segment, Dr. Vedda was asked to identify good policy/programs. The ISS was referenced and he said we need to be fully using it and that since it exists and is largely paid for, policy and programs using it would probably make more sense than a new program going to the Moon taking away resources targeted for the ISS. Dr. Vedda talked about the need to harvest space resources and learn to use them as another good program-policy idea. Another listener asked him about the goals and plans of space agencies from other countries. This proved a very interesting discussion, especially about Europe. Don't miss it. Our fourth segment talked about space solar power and making the most from NASA spinoffs. Space tourism was a topic as was the issue of space futurists. Don't miss this latter discussion. It's a good one and its important. Toward the end of the program, Dr. Vedda quoted from a book by Dandridge Cole, "Beyond Tomorrow;: The next 50 years in space." This quote served as the pearl of wisdom and I urge you to remember it. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Jim Vedda, please email them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward them to him.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Jim Vedda. Topics: Space policy and goals. We were most fortunate to have as our guest for this program, Dr. Jim Vedda. Our two hour discussion was wide ranging over many aspects of both U.S. and global space policy. In our first segment, Dr. Vedda talked about the "why" of space policy in the final chapter of the Augustine Commission Report but suggested this information relating to the goals of our space program should have been at the front of the report given its importance. This opened up our discussion on space goals being about our capability, not a destination. He suggested we go where resources are and where we can solve problems. Thus, the goal is about being capable to do something that is meaningful and important, not about the location or destination. He provided us with several examples form Apollo, JFK himself, the early days of communication satellites, and robotic space exploration. I also brought up Mars by 2019 for his commentary so you will certainly want to listen carefully to what Dr. Vedda had to say about the importance of space goals. As we started our second segment, we talked about the need for good public and private partnerships for space exploration and development. Dr. Vedda referred to the old NACA model, saying NASA should enable us to go to the stars, not necessarily lead us to the stars. We talked about the NASA workforce and jobs, infrastructure assets and more, all in the context of the NACA model. Opportunity costs were brought into the discussion and fusion power served as an illustration of this concept. Dr. Vedda introduced us to long term thinking and strategy in this segment. In the third segment, Dr. Vedda was asked to identify good policy/programs. The ISS was referenced and he said we need to be fully using it and that since it exists and is largely paid for, policy and programs using it would probably make more sense than a new program going to the Moon taking away resources targeted for the ISS. Dr. Vedda talked about the need to harvest space resources and learn to use them as another good program-policy idea. Another listener asked him about the goals and plans of space agencies from other countries. This proved a very interesting discussion, especially about Europe. Don't miss it. Our fourth segment talked about space solar power and making the most from NASA spinoffs. Space tourism was a topic as was the issue of space futurists. Don't miss this latter discussion. It's a good one and its important. Toward the end of the program, Dr. Vedda quoted from a book by Dandridge Cole, "Beyond Tomorrow;: The next 50 years in space." This quote served as the pearl of wisdom and I urge you to remember it. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Jim Vedda, please email them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward them to him.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Edward McCullough, Tuesday, 11-17-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Edward McCullough. Topics: Advanced technology, launch vehicles, space and lunar solar power. As we started our first segment of tonight's program, we focused on launch vehicles and Ed said up front that the launch vehicle companies must be profitable. With insufficient flights and fewer and fewer flights, it's hard for them to be profitable but were we to build and deploy a space solar power system, that would change things. He also spoke about the need for a single stage to orbit vehicle and indicated that a thermal protection system (TPS) was the major obstacle to developing the SSTO. As for the SSP system, he said he preferred a private system, not government. The start up costs would be between $200 and $400 billion. He was asked several questions about the Falcon 9 and SpaceX and said that ULA has had more than 140 successful launches in a row and that is a hard record to beat for a new rocket. Toward the end of this segment, listener Jack asked about coal fly ash as a ...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Edward McCullough. Topics: Advanced technology, launch vehicles, space and lunar solar power. As we started our first segment of tonight's program, we focused on launch vehicles and Ed said up front that the launch vehicle companies must be profitable. With insufficient flights and fewer and fewer flights, it's hard for them to be profitable but were we to build and deploy a space solar power system, that would change things. He also spoke about the need for a single stage to orbit vehicle and indicated that a thermal protection system (TPS) was the major obstacle to developing the SSTO. As for the SSP system, he said he preferred a private system, not government. The start up costs would be between $200 and $400 billion. He was asked several questions about the Falcon 9 and SpaceX and said that ULA has had more than 140 successful launches in a row and that is a hard record to beat for a new rocket. Toward the end of this segment, listener Jack asked about coal fly ash as a lunar regolith simulate and this led to a comprehensive discussion of not only the lunar regolith, but how coal is processed and why fly ash is the best for simulate. Don't miss this discussion. We started our second segment with a discussion about Ed's Navy nuclear training. He talked about the quality of the Navy schools, the intensity of the programs, and then serving on a nuclear submarine. He was asked about the sub being an analog for a possible long duration spaceflight. You will find his answer most interesting. Also in this segment, we talked about the nuclear rocket and as you will hear, he is in support of it. We talked about its safety even launching from Earth so don't miss what Ed had to say about this. A listener asked him about nuclear power plant safety and he mentioned the Molten Salt Reactor and urged listeners to check out the videos and information on it on the internet. He also talked about the Thorium and Liquid-Fluoride Thorium Reactor (www.google.com/search?q=optical+phone+conjugation&amp;rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;sourceid=ie7&amp;rlz=1I7GGLL_en). Toward the end of this segment, we started talking about various advanced technologies available today including wave length routing, Metro Networking, and Optical Phase Conjugation. Ed told us how advanced technology remains on the shelf and why it's so often difficult to get into commercial use. As you will hear, it's not always an honest system. In the third and final segment, we started off by talking about the AIAA Space Colonization Technical Committee and what the goals were to facilitate space colonization programs by 2015, none of which happened. Like me, I am sure you will find this story fascinating. As we neared the end of the program, we returned to space solar power and funding for it, plus the potential profitability for an SSP venture. He suggested we would see the breakeven point in about 12 years. Ed again stressed that infrastructure costs would be paid off about a year so after commercial operations started and that the IRR would be in the low to mid 40% range. In his concluding remarks, he said innovation is being suppressed. Needed and available technology sits on lab shelves and it could change the world. If you have a question or comment for Ed McCullough, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. Ed website is www.explainingthebigpicture.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Edward McCullough. Topics: Advanced technology, launch vehicles, space and lunar solar power. As we started our first segment of tonight's program, we focused on launch vehicles and Ed said up front that the launch vehicle companies must be profitable. With insufficient flights and fewer and fewer flights, it's hard for them to be profitable but were we to build and deploy a space solar power system, that would change things. He also spoke about the need for a single stage to orbit vehicle and indicated that a thermal protection system (TPS) was the major obstacle to developing the SSTO. As for the SSP system, he said he preferred a private system, not government. The start up costs would be between $200 and $400 billion. He was asked several questions about the Falcon 9 and SpaceX and said that ULA has had more than 140 successful launches in a row and that is a hard record to beat for a new rocket. Toward the end of this segment, listener Jack asked about coal fly ash as a lunar regolith simulate and this led to a comprehensive discussion of not only the lunar regolith, but how coal is processed and why fly ash is the best for simulate. Don't miss this discussion. We started our second segment with a discussion about Ed's Navy nuclear training. He talked about the quality of the Navy schools, the intensity of the programs, and then serving on a nuclear submarine. He was asked about the sub being an analog for a possible long duration spaceflight. You will find his answer most interesting. Also in this segment, we talked about the nuclear rocket and as you will hear, he is in support of it. We talked about its safety even launching from Earth so don't miss what Ed had to say about this. A listener asked him about nuclear power plant safety and he mentioned the Molten Salt Reactor and urged listeners to check out the videos and information on it on the internet. He also talked about the Thorium and Liquid-Fluoride Thorium Reactor (www.google.com/search?q=optical+phone+conjugation&amp;rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;sourceid=ie7&amp;rlz=1I7GGLL_en). Toward the end of this segment, we started talking about various advanced technologies available today including wave length routing, Metro Networking, and Optical Phase Conjugation. Ed told us how advanced technology remains on the shelf and why it's so often difficult to get into commercial use. As you will hear, it's not always an honest system. In the third and final segment, we started off by talking about the AIAA Space Colonization Technical Committee and what the goals were to facilitate space colonization programs by 2015, none of which happened. Like me, I am sure you will find this story fascinating. As we neared the end of the program, we returned to space solar power and funding for it, plus the potential profitability for an SSP venture. He suggested we would see the breakeven point in about 12 years. Ed again stressed that infrastructure costs would be paid off about a year so after commercial operations started and that the IRR would be in the low to mid 40% range. In his concluding remarks, he said innovation is being suppressed. Needed and available technology sits on lab shelves and it could change the world. If you have a question or comment for Ed McCullough, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. Ed website is www.explainingthebigpicture.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:32 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Ted Bateman, Dr. Jeff Willey, Monday, 11-16-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: Dr. Ted Bateman, Dr. Jeff Willey. Topics: Microgravity environment of space and bone loss in astronauts due to radiation. Our guests are involved in bone loss studies at the radiation levels astronauts will probably encounter on long duration spaceflights and to Mars. Their research flows from the National Space Biomedical Research Institute (NSBRI). Visit www.nsbri.org for more information about this and other projects. In our first segment, our guests provided us with an introduction to bone loss from radiation as compared to bone loss from microgravity. We also discussed the different kinds of radiation and their relative biological effect on the body. Our guests connected this research to radiation bone loss as a result of receiving cancer radiation treatment and what this bone loss means to cancer radiation patients. We talked about hip and pelvic fractures and the problem of osteoporosis, especially for older people. We learned about radiation experiments using mice an...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Dr. Ted Bateman, Dr. Jeff Willey. Topics: Microgravity environment of space and bone loss in astronauts due to radiation. Our guests are involved in bone loss studies at the radiation levels astronauts will probably encounter on long duration spaceflights and to Mars. Their research flows from the National Space Biomedical Research Institute (NSBRI). Visit www.nsbri.org for more information about this and other projects. In our first segment, our guests provided us with an introduction to bone loss from radiation as compared to bone loss from microgravity. We also discussed the different kinds of radiation and their relative biological effect on the body. Our guests connected this research to radiation bone loss as a result of receiving cancer radiation treatment and what this bone loss means to cancer radiation patients. We talked about hip and pelvic fractures and the problem of osteoporosis, especially for older people. We learned about radiation experiments using mice and the development of countermeasures to mitigate the radiation damage. As we started the second segment, our guests talked about osteoporosis drugs that are available and the role they play in mitigating some of the problems. Specifically, we talked about bisphosphonates but also the potential role of anti-oxidants. They mentioned research that has showed early positive findings for one anti-oxidant in particular. Lifetime radiation doses were discussed as was possible radiation damage to the storage of vital chemicals and essentials in the bone, including magnesium. Several listeners inquired about going to space for a few hours on a suborbital flight if they already had osteoporosis, inquiring if that time in space would be a complicating factor. Radiation from solar flares was brought up as was the physical condition of the person in space. As you will hear, the more physically fit the person, the more likely the person will be going to space with greater bone mass which is preferable to lower bone mass. In the third and final segment, we talked about the sources of funding for this type of research and the interest in this research in other countries. Japan seemed to be most interested and involved given they use heavy ion carbon radiation therapy for cancer treatment. We then discussed pros and cons of carbon ion versus proton radiation cancer treatment and how this applies to space radiation. Also in this segment, our two guests stressed the seriousness of hip fractures for people beyond 50. Gene therapy came up in a question but our guests were not familiar with any gene therapy research for radiation bone loss. Toward the end of the program, we talked about the mice models and some specifics regarding animal research. Our guests told us how they got interested in this field of research which was mostly by accident. Listeners wanted to know if other animals were used or why mice. Cost was and is a big factor but as the research moves forward to include more blood vessel studies with radiation, larger animals such as rabbits will be used. Our guests described some of the animal research protocols that are followed and told us about the IACUC standards and regulations. The humans to Mars 2019 timeline was discussed and both guests said making that timeline would be at great risk to the astronauts. We also talked about the five year goal of their research so you want to hear what they had to say. For example, we learned that five years might be a bit optimistic in achieving their stated research goals. If you have questions or comments for either of our guests, please email them directly: Dr. Ted Bateman, bateman@clemson.edu. For Dr. Jeff Willey, jwilley@clemson.edu. Their website at Clemson is www.batemanlab.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Dr. Ted Bateman, Dr. Jeff Willey. Topics: Microgravity environment of space and bone loss in astronauts due to radiation. Our guests are involved in bone loss studies at the radiation levels astronauts will probably encounter on long duration spaceflights and to Mars. Their research flows from the National Space Biomedical Research Institute (NSBRI). Visit www.nsbri.org for more information about this and other projects. In our first segment, our guests provided us with an introduction to bone loss from radiation as compared to bone loss from microgravity. We also discussed the different kinds of radiation and their relative biological effect on the body. Our guests connected this research to radiation bone loss as a result of receiving cancer radiation treatment and what this bone loss means to cancer radiation patients. We talked about hip and pelvic fractures and the problem of osteoporosis, especially for older people. We learned about radiation experiments using mice and the development of countermeasures to mitigate the radiation damage. As we started the second segment, our guests talked about osteoporosis drugs that are available and the role they play in mitigating some of the problems. Specifically, we talked about bisphosphonates but also the potential role of anti-oxidants. They mentioned research that has showed early positive findings for one anti-oxidant in particular. Lifetime radiation doses were discussed as was possible radiation damage to the storage of vital chemicals and essentials in the bone, including magnesium. Several listeners inquired about going to space for a few hours on a suborbital flight if they already had osteoporosis, inquiring if that time in space would be a complicating factor. Radiation from solar flares was brought up as was the physical condition of the person in space. As you will hear, the more physically fit the person, the more likely the person will be going to space with greater bone mass which is preferable to lower bone mass. In the third and final segment, we talked about the sources of funding for this type of research and the interest in this research in other countries. Japan seemed to be most interested and involved given they use heavy ion carbon radiation therapy for cancer treatment. We then discussed pros and cons of carbon ion versus proton radiation cancer treatment and how this applies to space radiation. Also in this segment, our two guests stressed the seriousness of hip fractures for people beyond 50. Gene therapy came up in a question but our guests were not familiar with any gene therapy research for radiation bone loss. Toward the end of the program, we talked about the mice models and some specifics regarding animal research. Our guests told us how they got interested in this field of research which was mostly by accident. Listeners wanted to know if other animals were used or why mice. Cost was and is a big factor but as the research moves forward to include more blood vessel studies with radiation, larger animals such as rabbits will be used. Our guests described some of the animal research protocols that are followed and told us about the IACUC standards and regulations. The humans to Mars 2019 timeline was discussed and both guests said making that timeline would be at great risk to the astronauts. We also talked about the five year goal of their research so you want to hear what they had to say. For example, we learned that five years might be a bit optimistic in achieving their stated research goals. If you have questions or comments for either of our guests, please email them directly: Dr. Ted Bateman, bateman@clemson.edu. For Dr. Jeff Willey, jwilley@clemson.edu. Their website at Clemson is www.batemanlab.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:16:40 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Mel Marsh, Sunday, 11-15-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Mel Marsh: Topics: Informed consent, space tourism, minor children, technology evaluation, anthropology, and astrosociology. Mel Marsh returned to The Space Show for this program. In the first segment, we focused on Mel's paper, "Ethical Issues Regarding Informed Consent for Minors for Space Tourism." You can find this paper and more of Mel?s work at his website: www.melsmarsh.com . During this segment, we highlighted some of the medical issues facing suborbital spaceflight, but talked about the challenge in applying these factors to minor children given the absence of credible data and research. Listeners offered comments and asked questions, attempting to draw parallels to spaceflight with sailing, school sports, and other risk oriented activities that minor children do all the time with the consent of their parents. Mel mentioned the Mature Minors Clause and also provided an explanation for the question offered by Shirley from Arizona regarding her teenage daughter's abort...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Mel Marsh: Topics: Informed consent, space tourism, minor children, technology evaluation, anthropology, and astrosociology. Mel Marsh returned to The Space Show for this program. In the first segment, we focused on Mel's paper, "Ethical Issues Regarding Informed Consent for Minors for Space Tourism." You can find this paper and more of Mel?s work at his website: www.melsmarsh.com . During this segment, we highlighted some of the medical issues facing suborbital spaceflight, but talked about the challenge in applying these factors to minor children given the absence of credible data and research. Listeners offered comments and asked questions, attempting to draw parallels to spaceflight with sailing, school sports, and other risk oriented activities that minor children do all the time with the consent of their parents. Mel mentioned the Mature Minors Clause and also provided an explanation for the question offered by Shirley from Arizona regarding her teenage daughter's abortion which was performed without parental consent or knowledge. As we started the second segment, we honed in on market analysis and rules of thumb for basic due diligence. Mel suggested focusing on one or two strong markets and really know them well rather than simply listing every possible potential market potential and recommended estimating markets out to at least five years and using conservative analysis and numbers, not best case or inflated numbers to make the case for the venture. He told us about several instances of finding outrageous numbers used by a company and we inquired about the motivation of a company to do that. I know you will find this discussion most interesting and applicable across a wide ranging set of business and economic disciplines. Later in this segment, Mel took on a question from Dr. Rygalov about astronaut training and ethics. Don't miss this question and Mel's response to it. As this segment ended, Mel talked about the lack of space interest and awareness in the anthropology field as well as with psychologists. As we started the third and final segment of the program, listener Marshall asked about life on the ISS and how long it might take to develop the systems and environmental support to do a three year round trip mission to Mars. See if you agree with what we said. Later in this segment, Marshall called in to give his take on the timetable which both Mel and I thought was optimistic. Also in this segment, we talked about the developing field of astrosociology and Mel brought up the apparent gap in interest regarding the field with younger people versus older, more established people. As you will hear, the younger groups seem to have more interest and energy in the subject of astrosociology, however even within the field the areas of interest are quite different. If you have a question or comment for Mel Marsh, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. He said you could find his email address on his website, but you have a better chance of Mel seeing it and responding with a quick response by having me forward your question or comment.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Mel Marsh: Topics: Informed consent, space tourism, minor children, technology evaluation, anthropology, and astrosociology. Mel Marsh returned to The Space Show for this program. In the first segment, we focused on Mel's paper, "Ethical Issues Regarding Informed Consent for Minors for Space Tourism." You can find this paper and more of Mel?s work at his website: www.melsmarsh.com . During this segment, we highlighted some of the medical issues facing suborbital spaceflight, but talked about the challenge in applying these factors to minor children given the absence of credible data and research. Listeners offered comments and asked questions, attempting to draw parallels to spaceflight with sailing, school sports, and other risk oriented activities that minor children do all the time with the consent of their parents. Mel mentioned the Mature Minors Clause and also provided an explanation for the question offered by Shirley from Arizona regarding her teenage daughter's abortion which was performed without parental consent or knowledge. As we started the second segment, we honed in on market analysis and rules of thumb for basic due diligence. Mel suggested focusing on one or two strong markets and really know them well rather than simply listing every possible potential market potential and recommended estimating markets out to at least five years and using conservative analysis and numbers, not best case or inflated numbers to make the case for the venture. He told us about several instances of finding outrageous numbers used by a company and we inquired about the motivation of a company to do that. I know you will find this discussion most interesting and applicable across a wide ranging set of business and economic disciplines. Later in this segment, Mel took on a question from Dr. Rygalov about astronaut training and ethics. Don't miss this question and Mel's response to it. As this segment ended, Mel talked about the lack of space interest and awareness in the anthropology field as well as with psychologists. As we started the third and final segment of the program, listener Marshall asked about life on the ISS and how long it might take to develop the systems and environmental support to do a three year round trip mission to Mars. See if you agree with what we said. Later in this segment, Marshall called in to give his take on the timetable which both Mel and I thought was optimistic. Also in this segment, we talked about the developing field of astrosociology and Mel brought up the apparent gap in interest regarding the field with younger people versus older, more established people. As you will hear, the younger groups seem to have more interest and energy in the subject of astrosociology, however even within the field the areas of interest are quite different. If you have a question or comment for Mel Marsh, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. He said you could find his email address on his website, but you have a better chance of Mel seeing it and responding with a quick response by having me forward your question or comment.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:17:18 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Robert Braun, Robert Manning, Friday 11-13-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: Dr. Robert (Bobby) Braun, Robert (Rob) Manning. Topics: Entry and descent for landing large Martian payloads. Our guests for this program, Dr. Bobby Braun and Rob Manning, are conducting research on how to land large payloads on Mars. Their paper, "Mars Exploration Entry, Descent and Landing Challenges" was prepared for the IEEAC, #0076 in December 2005. I strongly recommend that you obtain a copy of this paper and read it. Dr. Braun's website for the Space Systems Design Lab at Georgia Tech University is www.ssdl.gatech.edu/. This site contains various papers, journal articles and documents that you will find interesting. In our first segment, our guests provided us with the background and history leading to the challenges of landing large payloads on Mars, including a human mission. This segment also includes an introduction to the density of the Martian atmosphere, the need for heat shielding, and the reliance upon Viking technology for all Martian landers so far. Parachu...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Dr. Robert (Bobby) Braun, Robert (Rob) Manning. Topics: Entry and descent for landing large Martian payloads. Our guests for this program, Dr. Bobby Braun and Rob Manning, are conducting research on how to land large payloads on Mars. Their paper, "Mars Exploration Entry, Descent and Landing Challenges" was prepared for the IEEAC, #0076 in December 2005. I strongly recommend that you obtain a copy of this paper and read it. Dr. Braun's website for the Space Systems Design Lab at Georgia Tech University is www.ssdl.gatech.edu/. This site contains various papers, journal articles and documents that you will find interesting. In our first segment, our guests provided us with the background and history leading to the challenges of landing large payloads on Mars, including a human mission. This segment also includes an introduction to the density of the Martian atmosphere, the need for heat shielding, and the reliance upon Viking technology for all Martian landers so far. Parachutes and some of the technical issues in using them for a Mars landing were introduced in this segment. Our guests also said that for a manned Mars mission, we would have to use new and different technology. At the end of this segment, we talked about going to Mars as one of the options in the Augustine Commission. In the second segment, our guests clarified that Augustine said Mars was hard and we were not yet ready for it despite it being a goal. A question about a Mars space elevator came in from a listener and you might be surprised by what our guests said about this idea. Advanced technology being used for Mars Science Lab (MSL) was mentioned but it was still based on Viking. The European EXOMARS program, the technology surrounding the use of airbags for landing, and further information on parachute technology was discussed. During our third segment, Dr. Braun and Mr. Manning fielded many listener questions. One such question asked for a comparison in the difficulty and challenges for doing things in space as compared to the development of aviation. Don't miss this fascinating discussion. Another question inquired about differences the use of software and computers have made versus doing things with slide rules and earlier methods. As you will hear, computers have opened the door for simulations, models, testing, and have made a huge difference. Another listener asked if undergrads or graduate students were able to work on real Mars landing challenge problems. Dr. Braun answered by explaining some of the programs and options available at Georgia Tech and the focus of other schools as well. Both our guests talked about how these challenges inspired students to enter the field, take the classes, and work on the problems. The fact that these challenges exist are a real plus for driving students to these programs. Student internships were also mentioned as being available for students to work on the real Mars problems. In our fourth and final segment, we talked about possible solutions to the challenges of landing large payloads on Mars. You definitely will want to hear where the research and solutions are headed as these challenges are worked on and hopefully resolved. I asked both our guests if all other things were equal, could a 2019 date for humans to Mars be met. You might be surprised by what our guests had to say about this deadline. In summarizing our discussion, both our guests said that landing large payloads and humans on Mars presented significant challenges, but they both felt that in time we would figure it out. At the very end of the show, listener Jordan sent in a note about the iPhone being used by NASA for chemical testing and our guests pointed out that there was an iPhone app for Mars entry, descent, and landing which was actually very good. If you have a follow up question for Dr. Braun or Rob Manning, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to our guests.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Dr. Robert (Bobby) Braun, Robert (Rob) Manning. Topics: Entry and descent for landing large Martian payloads. Our guests for this program, Dr. Bobby Braun and Rob Manning, are conducting research on how to land large payloads on Mars. Their paper, "Mars Exploration Entry, Descent and Landing Challenges" was prepared for the IEEAC, #0076 in December 2005. I strongly recommend that you obtain a copy of this paper and read it. Dr. Braun's website for the Space Systems Design Lab at Georgia Tech University is www.ssdl.gatech.edu/. This site contains various papers, journal articles and documents that you will find interesting. In our first segment, our guests provided us with the background and history leading to the challenges of landing large payloads on Mars, including a human mission. This segment also includes an introduction to the density of the Martian atmosphere, the need for heat shielding, and the reliance upon Viking technology for all Martian landers so far. Parachutes and some of the technical issues in using them for a Mars landing were introduced in this segment. Our guests also said that for a manned Mars mission, we would have to use new and different technology. At the end of this segment, we talked about going to Mars as one of the options in the Augustine Commission. In the second segment, our guests clarified that Augustine said Mars was hard and we were not yet ready for it despite it being a goal. A question about a Mars space elevator came in from a listener and you might be surprised by what our guests said about this idea. Advanced technology being used for Mars Science Lab (MSL) was mentioned but it was still based on Viking. The European EXOMARS program, the technology surrounding the use of airbags for landing, and further information on parachute technology was discussed. During our third segment, Dr. Braun and Mr. Manning fielded many listener questions. One such question asked for a comparison in the difficulty and challenges for doing things in space as compared to the development of aviation. Don't miss this fascinating discussion. Another question inquired about differences the use of software and computers have made versus doing things with slide rules and earlier methods. As you will hear, computers have opened the door for simulations, models, testing, and have made a huge difference. Another listener asked if undergrads or graduate students were able to work on real Mars landing challenge problems. Dr. Braun answered by explaining some of the programs and options available at Georgia Tech and the focus of other schools as well. Both our guests talked about how these challenges inspired students to enter the field, take the classes, and work on the problems. The fact that these challenges exist are a real plus for driving students to these programs. Student internships were also mentioned as being available for students to work on the real Mars problems. In our fourth and final segment, we talked about possible solutions to the challenges of landing large payloads on Mars. You definitely will want to hear where the research and solutions are headed as these challenges are worked on and hopefully resolved. I asked both our guests if all other things were equal, could a 2019 date for humans to Mars be met. You might be surprised by what our guests had to say about this deadline. In summarizing our discussion, both our guests said that landing large payloads and humans on Mars presented significant challenges, but they both felt that in time we would figure it out. At the very end of the show, listener Jordan sent in a note about the iPhone being used by NASA for chemical testing and our guests pointed out that there was an iPhone app for Mars entry, descent, and landing which was actually very good. If you have a follow up question for Dr. Braun or Rob Manning, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to our guests.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Douglas Mallette</title>
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      <description>Guest: Douglas Mallette. Topics: space exploration for humanity, space vision, talking to the non-space community. Douglas Mallette was our guest for this show to talk about his new book, "Turning Point: How Space Exploration and Development Will Determine the Rise or Fall of Humanity." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation Amazon partners book page, http://www.amazon.com/dp/0557091233?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you buy this book through the OGLF link, Amazon donates to The Space Show/OGLF. This program unfolded in two segments, rather than three. During our initial segment, Douglas talked about his recent experience appearing on Fox News for a special program on their internet broadcast. Listen to his telling of his experiences, the internet audience he addressed and more. He also introduced us to his book, "Turning Point." He wrote the book to be able to talk space and space benefits to the non-space community. Since Douglas mentioned SSP in this discussio...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Douglas Mallette. Topics: space exploration for humanity, space vision, talking to the non-space community. Douglas Mallette was our guest for this show to talk about his new book, "Turning Point: How Space Exploration and Development Will Determine the Rise or Fall of Humanity." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation Amazon partners book page, http://www.amazon.com/dp/0557091233?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you buy this book through the OGLF link, Amazon donates to The Space Show/OGLF. This program unfolded in two segments, rather than three. During our initial segment, Douglas talked about his recent experience appearing on Fox News for a special program on their internet broadcast. Listen to his telling of his experiences, the internet audience he addressed and more. He also introduced us to his book, "Turning Point." He wrote the book to be able to talk space and space benefits to the non-space community. Since Douglas mentioned SSP in this discussion, he got a tough question from a New Mexico listener which caused a heated and passionate discussion with Douglas, myself, and the question from the listener. You will not want to miss our comments. In the second segment which went through to the end of the show, Douglass discussed the difficulties caused by ITAR, Ares, Constellation, and SRBs. I asked him about public/private partnerships for space development, specifically human spaceflight and the best course of action to take to implement and reach his goals as expressed in his book. We also talked about his doing public speaking to non-space audiences on these topics and I urged him to talk to his Member of Congress as well as Rotary Clubs on these issues, then report back to The Space Show during an Open Lines program as to how such talks went. When asked what his favorite part of the book was, he said it was Chapter 3, "Economics, Employment &amp; Education." Were you to browse the book in your book store, he suggested browsing through Chapter 3 as it was the most important in his opinion. If you have questions or comments for Douglas Mallette, please email him at mallette.doug@gmail.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Douglas Mallette. Topics: space exploration for humanity, space vision, talking to the non-space community. Douglas Mallette was our guest for this show to talk about his new book, "Turning Point: How Space Exploration and Development Will Determine the Rise or Fall of Humanity." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation Amazon partners book page, http://www.amazon.com/dp/0557091233?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you buy this book through the OGLF link, Amazon donates to The Space Show/OGLF. This program unfolded in two segments, rather than three. During our initial segment, Douglas talked about his recent experience appearing on Fox News for a special program on their internet broadcast. Listen to his telling of his experiences, the internet audience he addressed and more. He also introduced us to his book, "Turning Point." He wrote the book to be able to talk space and space benefits to the non-space community. Since Douglas mentioned SSP in this discussion, he got a tough question from a New Mexico listener which caused a heated and passionate discussion with Douglas, myself, and the question from the listener. You will not want to miss our comments. In the second segment which went through to the end of the show, Douglass discussed the difficulties caused by ITAR, Ares, Constellation, and SRBs. I asked him about public/private partnerships for space development, specifically human spaceflight and the best course of action to take to implement and reach his goals as expressed in his book. We also talked about his doing public speaking to non-space audiences on these topics and I urged him to talk to his Member of Congress as well as Rotary Clubs on these issues, then report back to The Space Show during an Open Lines program as to how such talks went. When asked what his favorite part of the book was, he said it was Chapter 3, "Economics, Employment &amp; Education." Were you to browse the book in your book store, he suggested browsing through Chapter 3 as it was the most important in his opinion. If you have questions or comments for Douglas Mallette, please email him at mallette.doug@gmail.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:29:05 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>William Suitor, Monday, 11-9-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: William Suitor. Topics: Rocket belts, how to fly them, rocket fuel. Our guest today, William Suitor, :"The Greatest Rocket Belt Pilot In The World," was our guest for this program. His new Apogee book, "Rocketbelt Pilot's Manual" is available through Amazon partners on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website. Remember, if you buy this book through OGLF, Amazon makes a donation to The Space Show. Please visit http://www.amazon.com/dp/1926592050?tag=onegialeafou-20 for ordering information. During our first segment, William provided us with the basics for a rocket belt, its fuel which, hydrogen peroxide 90% pure, nitrogen tanks, and he explained how the system worked. He also told us how Bell Labs got the initial military contract to build a rocket belt, why the military wanted it, its original purpose, and more. You will hear about the ISP, steam temperature, and how to fly and control it. In the second segment, Mr. Suitor said no FAA license was needed, to fly it but tha...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: William Suitor. Topics: Rocket belts, how to fly them, rocket fuel. Our guest today, William Suitor, :"The Greatest Rocket Belt Pilot In The World," was our guest for this program. His new Apogee book, "Rocketbelt Pilot's Manual" is available through Amazon partners on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website. Remember, if you buy this book through OGLF, Amazon makes a donation to The Space Show. Please visit http://www.amazon.com/dp/1926592050?tag=onegialeafou-20 for ordering information. During our first segment, William provided us with the basics for a rocket belt, its fuel which, hydrogen peroxide 90% pure, nitrogen tanks, and he explained how the system worked. He also told us how Bell Labs got the initial military contract to build a rocket belt, why the military wanted it, its original purpose, and more. You will hear about the ISP, steam temperature, and how to fly and control it. In the second segment, Mr. Suitor said no FAA license was needed, to fly it but that it was extremely loud and would not likely be allowed to operate in a neighborhood. He talked about training tethered flights, the number of flights it took to solo as a pilot, sit down landings and the empty weight of the rocket belt backpack which the pilot must learn to handle to land correctly. William also shared with us his movie set experiences, specifically the James Bond movie, Thunderball. In the third and final segment, we talked about his other movie experiences including "Lost In Space" and The Fall Guy, both TV series. When asked about his best experience as a rocket belt pilot, he talked about seeing his shadow over the ground and buildings as he made a U.S. Army tactical film. He described a great experience, don't miss it. Toward the end of the segment, William was asked about the future for rocket belt flying and demonstrations. He also told us about his experience at the 1984 Olympics and what he had to do to fly it safely and his cumbersome flight in front of a global audience including TV of more than 2 billion people. If you have a question for William Suitor, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. I hope you get his book, its most informative and fun to read. William has another more detailed 400 page rocket belt history and technical book coming out next year and he will return to the program as a guest when his new book is available. You will hear him describe his new book on this program.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: William Suitor. Topics: Rocket belts, how to fly them, rocket fuel. Our guest today, William Suitor, :"The Greatest Rocket Belt Pilot In The World," was our guest for this program. His new Apogee book, "Rocketbelt Pilot's Manual" is available through Amazon partners on the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website. Remember, if you buy this book through OGLF, Amazon makes a donation to The Space Show. Please visit http://www.amazon.com/dp/1926592050?tag=onegialeafou-20 for ordering information. During our first segment, William provided us with the basics for a rocket belt, its fuel which, hydrogen peroxide 90% pure, nitrogen tanks, and he explained how the system worked. He also told us how Bell Labs got the initial military contract to build a rocket belt, why the military wanted it, its original purpose, and more. You will hear about the ISP, steam temperature, and how to fly and control it. In the second segment, Mr. Suitor said no FAA license was needed, to fly it but that it was extremely loud and would not likely be allowed to operate in a neighborhood. He talked about training tethered flights, the number of flights it took to solo as a pilot, sit down landings and the empty weight of the rocket belt backpack which the pilot must learn to handle to land correctly. William also shared with us his movie set experiences, specifically the James Bond movie, Thunderball. In the third and final segment, we talked about his other movie experiences including "Lost In Space" and The Fall Guy, both TV series. When asked about his best experience as a rocket belt pilot, he talked about seeing his shadow over the ground and buildings as he made a U.S. Army tactical film. He described a great experience, don't miss it. Toward the end of the segment, William was asked about the future for rocket belt flying and demonstrations. He also told us about his experience at the 1984 Olympics and what he had to do to fly it safely and his cumbersome flight in front of a global audience including TV of more than 2 billion people. If you have a question for William Suitor, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. I hope you get his book, its most informative and fun to read. William has another more detailed 400 page rocket belt history and technical book coming out next year and he will return to the program as a guest when his new book is available. You will hear him describe his new book on this program.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Dr. Jeff Bell, Sunday, 11-8-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Jeff Bell. Topics: Augustine Commission, NASA budget, human spaceflight. Dr. Jeff Bell returned for this two hour program in three segments. During our first segment, Dr. Bell started a discussion about how the internet and blogs have impacted the space cadet community, both for the good and the bad. Don't miss this interesting discussion. Dr. Bell then began addressing the Augustine Commission findings and talked about budget issues given he pointed out NASA budget problems as early as 2007 in a Spacedaily.com article. He said he was very disappointed with the options as there was no deep analysis of the manned space program, asking the hard questions about why we have it, what it has accomplished, and so on. Listener questions asked about other nations and their moon programs. Listen to Jeff systematically address the major space programs of most nations and their capabilities. You might be surprised by what he says. NewSpace was introduced in this segment and he talked...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Jeff Bell. Topics: Augustine Commission, NASA budget, human spaceflight. Dr. Jeff Bell returned for this two hour program in three segments. During our first segment, Dr. Bell started a discussion about how the internet and blogs have impacted the space cadet community, both for the good and the bad. Don't miss this interesting discussion. Dr. Bell then began addressing the Augustine Commission findings and talked about budget issues given he pointed out NASA budget problems as early as 2007 in a Spacedaily.com article. He said he was very disappointed with the options as there was no deep analysis of the manned space program, asking the hard questions about why we have it, what it has accomplished, and so on. Listener questions asked about other nations and their moon programs. Listen to Jeff systematically address the major space programs of most nations and their capabilities. You might be surprised by what he says. NewSpace was introduced in this segment and he talked about the fact that Augustine probably underestimated budget requirements for the NASA programs. You will want to hear what he says and check his reference back to the full Augustine report. In our second segment which goes for about an hour, Jeff address space advocacy groups and talked about some of the comparisons with NewSpace and the early days of aviation and barnstorming. Later on, questions came in about NASA management capabilities and the ability of the U.S. to actually manage large technical programs. Dr. Bell had much to say concerning both of these questions. Listeners asked him about commercial space so you definitely want to hear him talk about this. Jeff then discussed fixed price and cost plus contracts for the aerospace industry. Jeff posed the question about many NewSpace companies using volunteer labor and asking what constitutes a hobby rocket company from a commercial rocket company. In response to another listener, he said that unmanned rocket programs made more sense than human spaceflights and that its hard to justify human spaceflight. Toward the end of this segment, Jeff talked about LCROSS and heaped lots of criticism on the project. The LCROSS discussion went into the start of the next segment too. In the third and final segment, our LCROSS discussion continued with Dr. Bell saying it was a bad mission. He then proceeded to outline the characteristics of what constituted a bad space mission. He also said it was a NASA PR disaster. He said the same but for different reasons for the Deep Impact mission. Toward the end of the program, I asked Dr. Bell about Hawaii's interest in a commercial space tourism spaceport with Rocketplane. Don't miss what he had to say about this. When asked to summarize his comments today, he said that the Augustine Commission report was disappointing. All vehicles are too costly and that NASA should reconstitute itself as the old NACA and develop spaceflight vehicles that were low cost in space access, operations, and even an RLV. Then this technology should be made available to the private sector. He would kill the existing programs in favor of this approach. He said that space development and the human spaceflight program were not a romantic novel from a previous century! He said the NACA like suggestion in Augustine was the only real and acceptable things in the entire report but that it was barely noticed. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Bell, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to him. Please note that Jeff is very slow about replying to emails, if at all. He will soon have new articles appearing in SpaceDaily.com. Be on the watch for them.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Jeff Bell. Topics: Augustine Commission, NASA budget, human spaceflight. Dr. Jeff Bell returned for this two hour program in three segments. During our first segment, Dr. Bell started a discussion about how the internet and blogs have impacted the space cadet community, both for the good and the bad. Don't miss this interesting discussion. Dr. Bell then began addressing the Augustine Commission findings and talked about budget issues given he pointed out NASA budget problems as early as 2007 in a Spacedaily.com article. He said he was very disappointed with the options as there was no deep analysis of the manned space program, asking the hard questions about why we have it, what it has accomplished, and so on. Listener questions asked about other nations and their moon programs. Listen to Jeff systematically address the major space programs of most nations and their capabilities. You might be surprised by what he says. NewSpace was introduced in this segment and he talked about the fact that Augustine probably underestimated budget requirements for the NASA programs. You will want to hear what he says and check his reference back to the full Augustine report. In our second segment which goes for about an hour, Jeff address space advocacy groups and talked about some of the comparisons with NewSpace and the early days of aviation and barnstorming. Later on, questions came in about NASA management capabilities and the ability of the U.S. to actually manage large technical programs. Dr. Bell had much to say concerning both of these questions. Listeners asked him about commercial space so you definitely want to hear him talk about this. Jeff then discussed fixed price and cost plus contracts for the aerospace industry. Jeff posed the question about many NewSpace companies using volunteer labor and asking what constitutes a hobby rocket company from a commercial rocket company. In response to another listener, he said that unmanned rocket programs made more sense than human spaceflights and that its hard to justify human spaceflight. Toward the end of this segment, Jeff talked about LCROSS and heaped lots of criticism on the project. The LCROSS discussion went into the start of the next segment too. In the third and final segment, our LCROSS discussion continued with Dr. Bell saying it was a bad mission. He then proceeded to outline the characteristics of what constituted a bad space mission. He also said it was a NASA PR disaster. He said the same but for different reasons for the Deep Impact mission. Toward the end of the program, I asked Dr. Bell about Hawaii's interest in a commercial space tourism spaceport with Rocketplane. Don't miss what he had to say about this. When asked to summarize his comments today, he said that the Augustine Commission report was disappointing. All vehicles are too costly and that NASA should reconstitute itself as the old NACA and develop spaceflight vehicles that were low cost in space access, operations, and even an RLV. Then this technology should be made available to the private sector. He would kill the existing programs in favor of this approach. He said that space development and the human spaceflight program were not a romantic novel from a previous century! He said the NACA like suggestion in Augustine was the only real and acceptable things in the entire report but that it was barely noticed. If you have a question or comment for Dr. Bell, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to him. Please note that Jeff is very slow about replying to emails, if at all. He will soon have new articles appearing in SpaceDaily.com. Be on the watch for them.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:11:49 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Robert Zubrin, Friday, 11-6-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Robert Zubrin. Topics: Goals and vision for space program, Augustine Commission. Dr. Robert Zubrin returned for this Space Show program to provide us with his assessment of the Augustine Commission's report and to put in context his goals and vision for our space program. In our first segment, Dr. Zubrin said that the Augustine Commission failed by not presenting a plan of action . Our entire segment was devoted to this discussion as was much of our program. Heavy lift was brought up and he said we would go nowhere in space without it. This is an action packed segment, don't miss it. Our second segment continued regarding Augustine and he shared his experiences with us when he spoke before the Commission as well as what happened when Elon Musk of SpaceX spoke before them regarding a fixed cost offer for building a heavy lift vehicle. Also in this segment, Dr. Zubrin had some things to say about some in the NewSpace community as well as the objective of reducing the cost t...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Robert Zubrin. Topics: Goals and vision for space program, Augustine Commission. Dr. Robert Zubrin returned for this Space Show program to provide us with his assessment of the Augustine Commission's report and to put in context his goals and vision for our space program. In our first segment, Dr. Zubrin said that the Augustine Commission failed by not presenting a plan of action . Our entire segment was devoted to this discussion as was much of our program. Heavy lift was brought up and he said we would go nowhere in space without it. This is an action packed segment, don't miss it. Our second segment continued regarding Augustine and he shared his experiences with us when he spoke before the Commission as well as what happened when Elon Musk of SpaceX spoke before them regarding a fixed cost offer for building a heavy lift vehicle. Also in this segment, Dr. Zubrin had some things to say about some in the NewSpace community as well as the objective of reducing the cost to space. Our guest responded to many listener questions including one about RX drugs in space, artificial gravity and how best to achieve it on a Mars mission, and more. He took questions about The Mars Society, its future plans, and its membership. The subject of a one way trip to Mars was brought up and you will want to hear what he had to say about this idea. In our third and final segment with Dr. Zubrin, we talked about the possibility of an asteroid mission as part of the goal of going to Mars. He again said that the Augustine Commission failed President Obama and the American people. In response to one of my questions, Dr. Zubrin said that the NASA people he has talked to would be elated with a goal of going to Mars by 2019. Listen to his comments on these important topics. Public private partnerships were discussed, foreign leaders and space programs were addressed, and the Mars Society TEMPO project was described. As Dr. Zubrin left the show, he again said the Commission dropped the ball and that we needed Presidential Leadership to have a meaningful and acceptable civil space program. In our fourth and final segment which was Open Lines to discuss Dr. Zubrin's interview, we received a phone call from Dr. Jurist who went into detail regarding the biomedical issues regarding humans to Mars or for long duration spaceflight/space settlement. While Dr. Jurist was in agreement with Dr. Zubrin's goals and vision, he sharply disagreed with Zubrin's comments on the human factors issues. Dr. Jurist went into some detail explaining the biomedical facts around bone loss, centrifuge and artificial gravity requirements, closed loop life support, radiation, and psychological problems. We also talked about the use of RX drugs in the space environment and much more. We compared our state of readiness and development regarding our efforts to go to the Moon with Apollo to where we are today for Mars and long duration human spaceflight. One thing for sure that both Jurist and I agreed upon what that if we don't set the goal for Mars or something similar, we won't undertake the much needed research to address the human factors challenges. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Robert Zubrin, send them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. Please Visit The Mars Society website, www.themarsociety.org.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Robert Zubrin. Topics: Goals and vision for space program, Augustine Commission. Dr. Robert Zubrin returned for this Space Show program to provide us with his assessment of the Augustine Commission's report and to put in context his goals and vision for our space program. In our first segment, Dr. Zubrin said that the Augustine Commission failed by not presenting a plan of action . Our entire segment was devoted to this discussion as was much of our program. Heavy lift was brought up and he said we would go nowhere in space without it. This is an action packed segment, don't miss it. Our second segment continued regarding Augustine and he shared his experiences with us when he spoke before the Commission as well as what happened when Elon Musk of SpaceX spoke before them regarding a fixed cost offer for building a heavy lift vehicle. Also in this segment, Dr. Zubrin had some things to say about some in the NewSpace community as well as the objective of reducing the cost to space. Our guest responded to many listener questions including one about RX drugs in space, artificial gravity and how best to achieve it on a Mars mission, and more. He took questions about The Mars Society, its future plans, and its membership. The subject of a one way trip to Mars was brought up and you will want to hear what he had to say about this idea. In our third and final segment with Dr. Zubrin, we talked about the possibility of an asteroid mission as part of the goal of going to Mars. He again said that the Augustine Commission failed President Obama and the American people. In response to one of my questions, Dr. Zubrin said that the NASA people he has talked to would be elated with a goal of going to Mars by 2019. Listen to his comments on these important topics. Public private partnerships were discussed, foreign leaders and space programs were addressed, and the Mars Society TEMPO project was described. As Dr. Zubrin left the show, he again said the Commission dropped the ball and that we needed Presidential Leadership to have a meaningful and acceptable civil space program. In our fourth and final segment which was Open Lines to discuss Dr. Zubrin's interview, we received a phone call from Dr. Jurist who went into detail regarding the biomedical issues regarding humans to Mars or for long duration spaceflight/space settlement. While Dr. Jurist was in agreement with Dr. Zubrin's goals and vision, he sharply disagreed with Zubrin's comments on the human factors issues. Dr. Jurist went into some detail explaining the biomedical facts around bone loss, centrifuge and artificial gravity requirements, closed loop life support, radiation, and psychological problems. We also talked about the use of RX drugs in the space environment and much more. We compared our state of readiness and development regarding our efforts to go to the Moon with Apollo to where we are today for Mars and long duration human spaceflight. One thing for sure that both Jurist and I agreed upon what that if we don't set the goal for Mars or something similar, we won't undertake the much needed research to address the human factors challenges. If you have questions or comments for Dr. Robert Zubrin, send them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. Please Visit The Mars Society website, www.themarsociety.org.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman, Tuesday, 11-3-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman. Topics: space walks, space tourism, solid rocket boosters, space policy, space vision. Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman was our guest for this Space Show program. In our initial segment, we discussed the Hubble Space Telescope and its repair missions, training for the repair missions, and what its like to do work in space outside the spacecraft. We asked Dr. Hoffman about any sense of speed or height when doing a space walk and if space tourists could do an EVA. He suggested a possible way for the space tourist to be able to go outside their spaceship while still connected to their ship's atmosphere and environmental systems. Check out this discussion. During the second segment we talked about the Vision for Space Exploration (VSE) and we addressed solid rocket boosters for human spaceflight. As you will hear, Dr. Hoffman said that the SRB was the most reliable rocket in the world with a track record to support that claim. This comment led to a comprehensive discussio...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman. Topics: space walks, space tourism, solid rocket boosters, space policy, space vision. Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman was our guest for this Space Show program. In our initial segment, we discussed the Hubble Space Telescope and its repair missions, training for the repair missions, and what its like to do work in space outside the spacecraft. We asked Dr. Hoffman about any sense of speed or height when doing a space walk and if space tourists could do an EVA. He suggested a possible way for the space tourist to be able to go outside their spaceship while still connected to their ship's atmosphere and environmental systems. Check out this discussion. During the second segment we talked about the Vision for Space Exploration (VSE) and we addressed solid rocket boosters for human spaceflight. As you will hear, Dr. Hoffman said that the SRB was the most reliable rocket in the world with a track record to support that claim. This comment led to a comprehensive discussion regarding SRBs and liquids so don't miss it. Space vision came up and we talked about going to Mars as the primary vision though the incremental steps getting there would include working on the Moon, in LEO, and elsewhere in space. A listener asked about hybrid rocket engines and the subject of heavy lift rockets came up. As you will hear, our guest supports the need for a heavy lift vehicle. Toward the end of this segment, NASA budget costs and potential increases were discussed. During the early part of the third and final segment, we talked about the extensive international interest in human spaceflight and space exploration, specifically human spaceflight as a catalyst for inspiring and motivating students to study the STEM courses in college. Dr. Hoffman was asked about a killer application for human spaceflight and this led to a discussion about the purpose of human spaceflight as well as for robotic spaceflight. You do not want to miss Dr. Hoffman's comments on this important subject. Later in this segment, we asked our guest about some of the human factors facing long duration spaceflight and settlement, including radiation and bone loss. Our guest brought us current with some of the research in these fields and how solutions might be realized. If you have a questions or comment for Dr. Jeff Hoffman, please send it to me at drspacespace@thespaceshow.com. In addition, as you will hear him mention near the end of the program, his MIT website is easy to find and it contains additional contact information.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman. Topics: space walks, space tourism, solid rocket boosters, space policy, space vision. Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman was our guest for this Space Show program. In our initial segment, we discussed the Hubble Space Telescope and its repair missions, training for the repair missions, and what its like to do work in space outside the spacecraft. We asked Dr. Hoffman about any sense of speed or height when doing a space walk and if space tourists could do an EVA. He suggested a possible way for the space tourist to be able to go outside their spaceship while still connected to their ship's atmosphere and environmental systems. Check out this discussion. During the second segment we talked about the Vision for Space Exploration (VSE) and we addressed solid rocket boosters for human spaceflight. As you will hear, Dr. Hoffman said that the SRB was the most reliable rocket in the world with a track record to support that claim. This comment led to a comprehensive discussion regarding SRBs and liquids so don't miss it. Space vision came up and we talked about going to Mars as the primary vision though the incremental steps getting there would include working on the Moon, in LEO, and elsewhere in space. A listener asked about hybrid rocket engines and the subject of heavy lift rockets came up. As you will hear, our guest supports the need for a heavy lift vehicle. Toward the end of this segment, NASA budget costs and potential increases were discussed. During the early part of the third and final segment, we talked about the extensive international interest in human spaceflight and space exploration, specifically human spaceflight as a catalyst for inspiring and motivating students to study the STEM courses in college. Dr. Hoffman was asked about a killer application for human spaceflight and this led to a discussion about the purpose of human spaceflight as well as for robotic spaceflight. You do not want to miss Dr. Hoffman's comments on this important subject. Later in this segment, we asked our guest about some of the human factors facing long duration spaceflight and settlement, including radiation and bone loss. Our guest brought us current with some of the research in these fields and how solutions might be realized. If you have a questions or comment for Dr. Jeff Hoffman, please send it to me at drspacespace@thespaceshow.com. In addition, as you will hear him mention near the end of the program, his MIT website is easy to find and it contains additional contact information.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:28:24 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Miles O'Brien, Monday, 11-2-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Miles O'Brien. Topics: NASA Advisory Council Input, space vision, space policy, Mars. We welcomed Miles O'Brien back to The Space Show for this program. We started our initial segment congratulating Miles for becoming a member of the NASA Advisory Council. Miles then told us about his NASA meetings so far, his discussions with the Charlie Bolden, the new NASA Administrator and the focus on education and outreach as a top priority for NASA. One of the goals is to energize and educate young groups of school kids across America to the importance and future of space in their lives. Later in this segment, Miles was asked about CNN terminating their science and technology reporting of which Miles was their anchor. In response to this question, our guest had much to say about cable news, how people today are getting their news, and the power of the internet over cable news. This is a fascinating discussion so don't miss it. Also in this segment, we talked about Ares 1-X and the Augu...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Miles O'Brien. Topics: NASA Advisory Council Input, space vision, space policy, Mars. We welcomed Miles O'Brien back to The Space Show for this program. We started our initial segment congratulating Miles for becoming a member of the NASA Advisory Council. Miles then told us about his NASA meetings so far, his discussions with the Charlie Bolden, the new NASA Administrator and the focus on education and outreach as a top priority for NASA. One of the goals is to energize and educate young groups of school kids across America to the importance and future of space in their lives. Later in this segment, Miles was asked about CNN terminating their science and technology reporting of which Miles was their anchor. In response to this question, our guest had much to say about cable news, how people today are getting their news, and the power of the internet over cable news. This is a fascinating discussion so don't miss it. Also in this segment, we talked about Ares 1-X and the Augustine Commission report. Miles had lots to say about Augustine as did I so again, don't miss our discussion. As we started our second segment, Miles invited listeners to give him feedback, questions, and comments that he could work with in his position on the NASA Advisory Council. He said he could be reached through all of the social networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter, etc. You will find his email address at the end of this write up. During this segment, Mr. O'Brien was asked about space solar power. As you will hear, Miles strongly supports it and even stated that perhaps some of it could be done as a private business and he cited a type of test venture in supplying SSP to our military. In response to this discussion, we had a listener point out the vulnerability of an SSP system for our military in that this listener said it would be easy for an enemy to hinder or render the system useless. Another listener asked Miles if the billions being reported to be invested in SSP by the Japanese might just embarrass the U.S. Congress to take action on SSP and start an American program. This issue was also discussed in the final program segment. Both Miles and I laughed and said given the scandals and what goes on with our congress, nothing could ever embarrass them. Also in this segment, we talked about extending the life of the shuttle, the Gap and why the GAP is important. We also talked about the need to understand that space development was an investment, not an expense item. Miles was asked about our time frame for coming up with good space policy and he thought timing was now critical and that we were in a very crucial time frame. The Hubble Space Telescope was discussed as an inspiring space program and in terms of education, Miles cited the educational system, science programs, and journalism as a growth business in Poland which is just the opposite of the United States. As we kicked off the third and final segment, we talked some more about the Japanese SSP program and the 40th anniversary of Apollo. At one point, Miles said it was sad that we lived so much in the past and only had our past glorious space programs to honor and remember. This is an important discussions so don't miss it. In response to a question about Administrator Bolden's NASA vision, he said he wants to go to Mars but of course he is serving at NASA at the pleasure of the President of the U.S. so obviously he has to follow the administration mandate for NASA. Some questions came in during this segment about political partisanship and space and both Miles and I pointed that space has been seen as a unique program for the United States and has enjoyed bi-partisan support. As for closing comments, the bottom line: Don't Give Up!!! To contact Miles O'Brien, you can reach him at milesobrien@mac.com. His website is www.milesobrien.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Miles O'Brien. Topics: NASA Advisory Council Input, space vision, space policy, Mars. We welcomed Miles O'Brien back to The Space Show for this program. We started our initial segment congratulating Miles for becoming a member of the NASA Advisory Council. Miles then told us about his NASA meetings so far, his discussions with the Charlie Bolden, the new NASA Administrator and the focus on education and outreach as a top priority for NASA. One of the goals is to energize and educate young groups of school kids across America to the importance and future of space in their lives. Later in this segment, Miles was asked about CNN terminating their science and technology reporting of which Miles was their anchor. In response to this question, our guest had much to say about cable news, how people today are getting their news, and the power of the internet over cable news. This is a fascinating discussion so don't miss it. Also in this segment, we talked about Ares 1-X and the Augustine Commission report. Miles had lots to say about Augustine as did I so again, don't miss our discussion. As we started our second segment, Miles invited listeners to give him feedback, questions, and comments that he could work with in his position on the NASA Advisory Council. He said he could be reached through all of the social networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter, etc. You will find his email address at the end of this write up. During this segment, Mr. O'Brien was asked about space solar power. As you will hear, Miles strongly supports it and even stated that perhaps some of it could be done as a private business and he cited a type of test venture in supplying SSP to our military. In response to this discussion, we had a listener point out the vulnerability of an SSP system for our military in that this listener said it would be easy for an enemy to hinder or render the system useless. Another listener asked Miles if the billions being reported to be invested in SSP by the Japanese might just embarrass the U.S. Congress to take action on SSP and start an American program. This issue was also discussed in the final program segment. Both Miles and I laughed and said given the scandals and what goes on with our congress, nothing could ever embarrass them. Also in this segment, we talked about extending the life of the shuttle, the Gap and why the GAP is important. We also talked about the need to understand that space development was an investment, not an expense item. Miles was asked about our time frame for coming up with good space policy and he thought timing was now critical and that we were in a very crucial time frame. The Hubble Space Telescope was discussed as an inspiring space program and in terms of education, Miles cited the educational system, science programs, and journalism as a growth business in Poland which is just the opposite of the United States. As we kicked off the third and final segment, we talked some more about the Japanese SSP program and the 40th anniversary of Apollo. At one point, Miles said it was sad that we lived so much in the past and only had our past glorious space programs to honor and remember. This is an important discussions so don't miss it. In response to a question about Administrator Bolden's NASA vision, he said he wants to go to Mars but of course he is serving at NASA at the pleasure of the President of the U.S. so obviously he has to follow the administration mandate for NASA. Some questions came in during this segment about political partisanship and space and both Miles and I pointed that space has been seen as a unique program for the United States and has enjoyed bi-partisan support. As for closing comments, the bottom line: Don't Give Up!!! To contact Miles O'Brien, you can reach him at milesobrien@mac.com. His website is www.milesobrien.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:44:04 -0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Ann Darrin and Dr. Beth O'Leary, Sunday, 11-1-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: Ann Darrin, Dr. Beth O'Leary. Topics: saving space heritage sites, lunar landing sites, museums, artifacts, special engineering. Our guests for this program, Ann Darrin and Dr. Beth O'Leary, are the editors of the book, "Handbook Of Space Engineering, Archaeology, and Heritage." This is a must-have cutting-edge book for your library, and is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation book page so if you buy it through this link : http://www.amazon.com/dp/1420084313?tag=onegialeafou-20 a portion of the proceeds go to The Space Show. We started our first segment with an explanation of the structure and the organization of this 1,000 page book. As we learned from this discussion, this book could serve as an introductory graduate level text to rocket science and orbital dynamics in addition to the basics pertaining to archaeology and heritage. Near the end of the first segment, we focused on space archaeology, the legal regime that would be necessary to preserve sites in space an...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Ann Darrin, Dr. Beth O'Leary. Topics: saving space heritage sites, lunar landing sites, museums, artifacts, special engineering. Our guests for this program, Ann Darrin and Dr. Beth O'Leary, are the editors of the book, "Handbook Of Space Engineering, Archaeology, and Heritage." This is a must-have cutting-edge book for your library, and is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation book page so if you buy it through this link : http://www.amazon.com/dp/1420084313?tag=onegialeafou-20 a portion of the proceeds go to The Space Show. We started our first segment with an explanation of the structure and the organization of this 1,000 page book. As we learned from this discussion, this book could serve as an introductory graduate level text to rocket science and orbital dynamics in addition to the basics pertaining to archaeology and heritage. Near the end of the first segment, we focused on space archaeology, the legal regime that would be necessary to preserve sites in space and on a celestial body and potential conflicts with the Outer Space Treaty. The World Heritage Convention, the Apollo 11 landing site, Launch Complex 39 at the Cape, and the experiences our guests had talking to NASA about historical preservation are all part of this first segment. In the second segment, we learn the genesis for this book and how they brought such a book to fruition. This book addresses cutting edge subjects and merges science, physics, and engineering with archaeology and social science. As you will hear Ann say, she knew next to nothing about archaeology when starting and was surprised to learn that archaeologists follow the scientific method as well. Both Ann and Beth commented on the differences they had with comparison terminology and used in-situ as an example since it means one thing in space science and engineering and quite another in the field of archaeology. Our discussion soon moved towards orbital debris and our guests were asked what constituted orbital debris vs an artifact and later, Beth was asked about the difference between anthropology and archaeology. You certainly want to hear this discussion. I asked both our guests about graduate level education in space related fields merging these disciplines together. As you will hear, those opportunities are far and few between. We also spoke about the degree of development for the space industry and whether it was moving toward maturity or if it was still in its infancy? Listen to what our guests had to say about this. As we entered the final segment, we talked about the Cold War and how we took risks then and the launch rate was significantly higher than today. The question was asked if we needed something like a Cold War to accelerate space development or at least a crisis or stressful situation. Beth mentioned her interview with former astronaut Frank Borman who said his mission was a battle in the Cold War, not really a space mission. This discussion then took us into the world of the high cost of space access, the need to get to space much cheaper and the comparison of robotic missions versus manned missions. This is a very important discussion with our guests so don't miss it. Later in this segment, we talked about private collectors and how that takes important artifacts out of the potential research domain. Near the end of the program, I asked both guests for their favorite parts or chapters in the book. You will definitely want to hear what they have to say. Our guests did say the LCROSS impact site was now a new archaeological heritage site. We talked about the preservation value of NewSpace and space tourism and the upcoming Lunar X Prize effort. It was said that when humans explore, we litter so we have to take care of this as part of our exploration efforts. For your questions and comments, please contact Ann Darrin and Dr. Beth O'Leary as follows: Ann Darrin: ann.darrin@jhuapl.edu. Dr. Beth O'Leary: boleary@nmsu.edu .</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Ann Darrin, Dr. Beth O'Leary. Topics: saving space heritage sites, lunar landing sites, museums, artifacts, special engineering. Our guests for this program, Ann Darrin and Dr. Beth O'Leary, are the editors of the book, "Handbook Of Space Engineering, Archaeology, and Heritage." This is a must-have cutting-edge book for your library, and is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation book page so if you buy it through this link : http://www.amazon.com/dp/1420084313?tag=onegialeafou-20 a portion of the proceeds go to The Space Show. We started our first segment with an explanation of the structure and the organization of this 1,000 page book. As we learned from this discussion, this book could serve as an introductory graduate level text to rocket science and orbital dynamics in addition to the basics pertaining to archaeology and heritage. Near the end of the first segment, we focused on space archaeology, the legal regime that would be necessary to preserve sites in space and on a celestial body and potential conflicts with the Outer Space Treaty. The World Heritage Convention, the Apollo 11 landing site, Launch Complex 39 at the Cape, and the experiences our guests had talking to NASA about historical preservation are all part of this first segment. In the second segment, we learn the genesis for this book and how they brought such a book to fruition. This book addresses cutting edge subjects and merges science, physics, and engineering with archaeology and social science. As you will hear Ann say, she knew next to nothing about archaeology when starting and was surprised to learn that archaeologists follow the scientific method as well. Both Ann and Beth commented on the differences they had with comparison terminology and used in-situ as an example since it means one thing in space science and engineering and quite another in the field of archaeology. Our discussion soon moved towards orbital debris and our guests were asked what constituted orbital debris vs an artifact and later, Beth was asked about the difference between anthropology and archaeology. You certainly want to hear this discussion. I asked both our guests about graduate level education in space related fields merging these disciplines together. As you will hear, those opportunities are far and few between. We also spoke about the degree of development for the space industry and whether it was moving toward maturity or if it was still in its infancy? Listen to what our guests had to say about this. As we entered the final segment, we talked about the Cold War and how we took risks then and the launch rate was significantly higher than today. The question was asked if we needed something like a Cold War to accelerate space development or at least a crisis or stressful situation. Beth mentioned her interview with former astronaut Frank Borman who said his mission was a battle in the Cold War, not really a space mission. This discussion then took us into the world of the high cost of space access, the need to get to space much cheaper and the comparison of robotic missions versus manned missions. This is a very important discussion with our guests so don't miss it. Later in this segment, we talked about private collectors and how that takes important artifacts out of the potential research domain. Near the end of the program, I asked both guests for their favorite parts or chapters in the book. You will definitely want to hear what they have to say. Our guests did say the LCROSS impact site was now a new archaeological heritage site. We talked about the preservation value of NewSpace and space tourism and the upcoming Lunar X Prize effort. It was said that when humans explore, we litter so we have to take care of this as part of our exploration efforts. For your questions and comments, please contact Ann Darrin and Dr. Beth O'Leary as follows: Ann Darrin: ann.darrin@jhuapl.edu. Dr. Beth O'Leary: boleary@nmsu.edu .</itunes:summary>
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      <title>John Hornung, Friday, 10-30-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: John Hornung. Topics: Aerospace memoirs, Saturn 1 B, developing testing formulas and methods for the space program. Our guest, John P. Hornung, is a retired aerospace worker having worked on the Saturn 1 B with the Chrysler Corporation Space Division. Mr. Hornung has written his memoirs which detail his part in the early days of developing our space program for the Moon, human spaceflight, and rocket development. Mr. Hornung will give listeners a free copy of his 40 page memoir, "To the Moon, Without Me," just by sending him an email and requesting it with your mailing address. Having read his story, I strongly recommend it because John Hornung was among those pioneers that wrote the book on building, designing, testing, and developing rockets and human spaceflight. His memoir is an important treasure of information that would server us all well to know, understand, and remember. As Mr. Hornung's subjects went across our segments, this program description does not really lend...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: John Hornung. Topics: Aerospace memoirs, Saturn 1 B, developing testing formulas and methods for the space program. Our guest, John P. Hornung, is a retired aerospace worker having worked on the Saturn 1 B with the Chrysler Corporation Space Division. Mr. Hornung has written his memoirs which detail his part in the early days of developing our space program for the Moon, human spaceflight, and rocket development. Mr. Hornung will give listeners a free copy of his 40 page memoir, "To the Moon, Without Me," just by sending him an email and requesting it with your mailing address. Having read his story, I strongly recommend it because John Hornung was among those pioneers that wrote the book on building, designing, testing, and developing rockets and human spaceflight. His memoir is an important treasure of information that would server us all well to know, understand, and remember. As Mr. Hornung's subjects went across our segments, this program description does not really lend itself to be described segment by segment. Some of the topics we covered were the development of reliability testing systems, confidence intervals and reliability formulas for the Saturn 1 B and other rockets. We talked about early industry challenges, competition not just with the Soviets but with the Air Force and its rocket and space programs. Mr. Hornung goes into exciting detail about the math and analysis he did, especially by using imaginary numbers as that made his work accurate, especially when compared to the work of others that ignored imaginary numbers. Specific testing programs were discussed and we also talked about the layoffs that took place in the early days of the space program, even before we went to the Moon. John helped us extrapolate from then to now with the employment pressures in today's aerospace industry. Listen carefully as he provided with good recommendations to make careers more valuable and universal, even outside the space industry I believe this to be a very important two hour Space Show program. Don't miss it. If you have a question or comment for John Hornung or if you want a free copy of his memoirs, please email him at jkjamestown@verizon.net.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: John Hornung. Topics: Aerospace memoirs, Saturn 1 B, developing testing formulas and methods for the space program. Our guest, John P. Hornung, is a retired aerospace worker having worked on the Saturn 1 B with the Chrysler Corporation Space Division. Mr. Hornung has written his memoirs which detail his part in the early days of developing our space program for the Moon, human spaceflight, and rocket development. Mr. Hornung will give listeners a free copy of his 40 page memoir, "To the Moon, Without Me," just by sending him an email and requesting it with your mailing address. Having read his story, I strongly recommend it because John Hornung was among those pioneers that wrote the book on building, designing, testing, and developing rockets and human spaceflight. His memoir is an important treasure of information that would server us all well to know, understand, and remember. As Mr. Hornung's subjects went across our segments, this program description does not really lend itself to be described segment by segment. Some of the topics we covered were the development of reliability testing systems, confidence intervals and reliability formulas for the Saturn 1 B and other rockets. We talked about early industry challenges, competition not just with the Soviets but with the Air Force and its rocket and space programs. Mr. Hornung goes into exciting detail about the math and analysis he did, especially by using imaginary numbers as that made his work accurate, especially when compared to the work of others that ignored imaginary numbers. Specific testing programs were discussed and we also talked about the layoffs that took place in the early days of the space program, even before we went to the Moon. John helped us extrapolate from then to now with the employment pressures in today's aerospace industry. Listen carefully as he provided with good recommendations to make careers more valuable and universal, even outside the space industry I believe this to be a very important two hour Space Show program. Don't miss it. If you have a question or comment for John Hornung or if you want a free copy of his memoirs, please email him at jkjamestown@verizon.net.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:07:10 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Arlin Crotts, Tuesday, 10-27-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Arlin Crotts. Topics: water on the Moon, liquid mirror telescopes, space exploration, NASA budget. Dr. Arlin Crotts was our guest for this show regarding his work on water on the Moon. Please read his Oct. 12, 2009 Space Review article, "Water on the Moon," www.thespacereview.com/article//1485/1. Our first segment started with a detailed and most interesting discussion on liquid mirror telescopes. We then switched to the main topic for the program, water on the Moon. Dr. Crotts said that scientifically, this was very compelling because according to our models water should not be there. We discussed the benefits and advantages for finding water on the Moon for humans as well as for making rocket fuel and of course for expanding scientific knowledge. During this segment, our guest went through the various ideas and theories as to the source of lunar water. This is a discussion you don't want to miss. In response to a question about a mission to confirm the source of lunar w...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Arlin Crotts. Topics: water on the Moon, liquid mirror telescopes, space exploration, NASA budget. Dr. Arlin Crotts was our guest for this show regarding his work on water on the Moon. Please read his Oct. 12, 2009 Space Review article, "Water on the Moon," www.thespacereview.com/article//1485/1. Our first segment started with a detailed and most interesting discussion on liquid mirror telescopes. We then switched to the main topic for the program, water on the Moon. Dr. Crotts said that scientifically, this was very compelling because according to our models water should not be there. We discussed the benefits and advantages for finding water on the Moon for humans as well as for making rocket fuel and of course for expanding scientific knowledge. During this segment, our guest went through the various ideas and theories as to the source of lunar water. This is a discussion you don't want to miss. In response to a question about a mission to confirm the source of lunar water, Dr. Crotts speculated a 4-5 year time period, perhaps up to $500 million for a mission to conduct ground penetrating radar examinations of the entire Moon. In the second segment, Dr. Crotts was asked about the possibility of lunar volcanic water sources. He also talked about fuel cells and using the Moon as a stepping stone for learning how to live and work in space and move outward to Mars, a NEO, or elsewhere of interest. He said he took issue with Mars being the ultimate destination and that there may be other destinations of equal or more importance that we should visit. Again, you will want to hear his ideas and the why behind them. In response to a question about the perfect kind of space program, he said space exploration should be science led in that we need to be very well informed and prepared as we move out into space. Much was said on this theme and as you will hear, its an important discussion. In Segment Three, we talked about knowing and understanding our place in the university and other intelligence that may be discovered in space. In light of this discussion, Dr. Crotts talked about the role of both robots and humans in space exploration. Later in this final segment, the NASA budget was addressed. Here, Dr. Crotts suggested that for small amounts more in the budget, we could do significantly more with our space program. Budget cuts go in the wrong direction because then all that happens is the NASA overhead and infrastructure costs are met. Understanding what Dr. Crotts is talking about with the budget, meeting the basic overhead and infrastructure costs, and getting perhaps double or more bang for the buck is important. At the end of the program, we talked about the Russian Luna 24 mission which found signs of water on the Moon back in 1976. You will want to hear his comments on this and not missing science for years if not decades that may be right in front of our noses. If you want to send Dr. Arlin Crotts a comment or question, please do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Arlin Crotts. Topics: water on the Moon, liquid mirror telescopes, space exploration, NASA budget. Dr. Arlin Crotts was our guest for this show regarding his work on water on the Moon. Please read his Oct. 12, 2009 Space Review article, "Water on the Moon," www.thespacereview.com/article//1485/1. Our first segment started with a detailed and most interesting discussion on liquid mirror telescopes. We then switched to the main topic for the program, water on the Moon. Dr. Crotts said that scientifically, this was very compelling because according to our models water should not be there. We discussed the benefits and advantages for finding water on the Moon for humans as well as for making rocket fuel and of course for expanding scientific knowledge. During this segment, our guest went through the various ideas and theories as to the source of lunar water. This is a discussion you don't want to miss. In response to a question about a mission to confirm the source of lunar water, Dr. Crotts speculated a 4-5 year time period, perhaps up to $500 million for a mission to conduct ground penetrating radar examinations of the entire Moon. In the second segment, Dr. Crotts was asked about the possibility of lunar volcanic water sources. He also talked about fuel cells and using the Moon as a stepping stone for learning how to live and work in space and move outward to Mars, a NEO, or elsewhere of interest. He said he took issue with Mars being the ultimate destination and that there may be other destinations of equal or more importance that we should visit. Again, you will want to hear his ideas and the why behind them. In response to a question about the perfect kind of space program, he said space exploration should be science led in that we need to be very well informed and prepared as we move out into space. Much was said on this theme and as you will hear, its an important discussion. In Segment Three, we talked about knowing and understanding our place in the university and other intelligence that may be discovered in space. In light of this discussion, Dr. Crotts talked about the role of both robots and humans in space exploration. Later in this final segment, the NASA budget was addressed. Here, Dr. Crotts suggested that for small amounts more in the budget, we could do significantly more with our space program. Budget cuts go in the wrong direction because then all that happens is the NASA overhead and infrastructure costs are met. Understanding what Dr. Crotts is talking about with the budget, meeting the basic overhead and infrastructure costs, and getting perhaps double or more bang for the buck is important. At the end of the program, we talked about the Russian Luna 24 mission which found signs of water on the Moon back in 1976. You will want to hear his comments on this and not missing science for years if not decades that may be right in front of our noses. If you want to send Dr. Arlin Crotts a comment or question, please do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:26:23 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Henry Helvajian and Dr. Siegfried Janson, Monday, 10-26-09</title>
      <link>http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25397602-Dr-Henry-Helvajian-and-Dr-Siegfried-Janson-Monday-10-26-09</link>
      <description>Guests: Dr. Henry Helvajian, Dr. Siegfried Janson. Topics: Small satellites, satellite history, present and future satellite technology, launch rate. We welcomed Dr. Henry Helvajian and Dr. Siegfried Janson, editors of "Small Satellites: Past, Present, and Future," to the program. This book is available from the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website at www.amazon.com/dp/1884989225?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, buying books through the OGLF Amazon partners page helps in supporting The Space Show. In our first segment began with a summary of the history of small satellites starting with the commencement of the space era. As you will hear, small satellites have been with us from the start and now due to advanced technology, their utility is excellent and improving all the time. Advanced satellite technology was introduced to the discussion and we even talked about mass producing satellites and why it's more economic to launch to LEO. We started our second segment with a focus on cu...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Dr. Henry Helvajian, Dr. Siegfried Janson. Topics: Small satellites, satellite history, present and future satellite technology, launch rate. We welcomed Dr. Henry Helvajian and Dr. Siegfried Janson, editors of "Small Satellites: Past, Present, and Future," to the program. This book is available from the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website at www.amazon.com/dp/1884989225?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, buying books through the OGLF Amazon partners page helps in supporting The Space Show. In our first segment began with a summary of the history of small satellites starting with the commencement of the space era. As you will hear, small satellites have been with us from the start and now due to advanced technology, their utility is excellent and improving all the time. Advanced satellite technology was introduced to the discussion and we even talked about mass producing satellites and why it's more economic to launch to LEO. We started our second segment with a focus on cubesats. I asked about the expanding role of academic cubesat programs and their contributions to the small satellite industry. As you will hear, academic programs are a major driver for the industry and an important and inspiring element adding to more STEM students. You will not want to miss this important discussion. Pocket cubesats, 3 Cube Spacecraft, and 1U CubeSats were addressed in this segment. Our guests suggested those interested should visit www.cubesat.org for more information. Cubesat technology evolution , Earth monitoring with the already existing 10 meter ground resolution, and the subject of space debris came up since debris is an ongoing and serious problem. Listen to some of the debris mitigation techniques talked about and being implemented. One method mentioned was for the satellite to deploy and inflate a balloon to create drag which brings the cubesat down in three to five weeks. Tethers Unlimited also has a method for deorbiting a cubesat, their nanoTerminator. The issue of personal satellites came up during this segment, addressing their potential future in light of both power and bandwidth limitation issues. Our guests said that the cubesats were evolutionary space technology, taking about two months to build and being able to launch on a nine month schedule as compared to a regular satellite working off a six year schedule. Cubesats can be built, deployed, and start operations six to eight times faster than other satellites. As we started our third and final segment, we talked about revolutionary issues such as mass production and the materials that satellites will be made of in the future. For example, glass instead of metal. Our guests then went through the structure of their book which examines the fifty year history of small satellites. Space policy and security came up in this segment as there is a section in the book addressing these important areas. An important part of the book looks forward to the next fifty years and here we learned that smallsats might be used as propellant, thus breaking the tyranny of the Rocket Equation. Check out Chapter 23 for more on this exciting subject! During this segment, much more was said about the radiation issue for satellites. Toward the end of the program, questions were asked about STEM education and the need for highly trained engineers to take us into the future that was being discussed on this show. Both our guests thought that STEM was declining but the bright spot was the degree to which cubesat programs were bringing students into STEM educational programs. This is an important discussion that you must hear. If you have a question or comment for either of our guests, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to them.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Dr. Henry Helvajian, Dr. Siegfried Janson. Topics: Small satellites, satellite history, present and future satellite technology, launch rate. We welcomed Dr. Henry Helvajian and Dr. Siegfried Janson, editors of "Small Satellites: Past, Present, and Future," to the program. This book is available from the One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) website at www.amazon.com/dp/1884989225?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, buying books through the OGLF Amazon partners page helps in supporting The Space Show. In our first segment began with a summary of the history of small satellites starting with the commencement of the space era. As you will hear, small satellites have been with us from the start and now due to advanced technology, their utility is excellent and improving all the time. Advanced satellite technology was introduced to the discussion and we even talked about mass producing satellites and why it's more economic to launch to LEO. We started our second segment with a focus on cubesats. I asked about the expanding role of academic cubesat programs and their contributions to the small satellite industry. As you will hear, academic programs are a major driver for the industry and an important and inspiring element adding to more STEM students. You will not want to miss this important discussion. Pocket cubesats, 3 Cube Spacecraft, and 1U CubeSats were addressed in this segment. Our guests suggested those interested should visit www.cubesat.org for more information. Cubesat technology evolution , Earth monitoring with the already existing 10 meter ground resolution, and the subject of space debris came up since debris is an ongoing and serious problem. Listen to some of the debris mitigation techniques talked about and being implemented. One method mentioned was for the satellite to deploy and inflate a balloon to create drag which brings the cubesat down in three to five weeks. Tethers Unlimited also has a method for deorbiting a cubesat, their nanoTerminator. The issue of personal satellites came up during this segment, addressing their potential future in light of both power and bandwidth limitation issues. Our guests said that the cubesats were evolutionary space technology, taking about two months to build and being able to launch on a nine month schedule as compared to a regular satellite working off a six year schedule. Cubesats can be built, deployed, and start operations six to eight times faster than other satellites. As we started our third and final segment, we talked about revolutionary issues such as mass production and the materials that satellites will be made of in the future. For example, glass instead of metal. Our guests then went through the structure of their book which examines the fifty year history of small satellites. Space policy and security came up in this segment as there is a section in the book addressing these important areas. An important part of the book looks forward to the next fifty years and here we learned that smallsats might be used as propellant, thus breaking the tyranny of the Rocket Equation. Check out Chapter 23 for more on this exciting subject! During this segment, much more was said about the radiation issue for satellites. Toward the end of the program, questions were asked about STEM education and the need for highly trained engineers to take us into the future that was being discussed on this show. Both our guests thought that STEM was declining but the bright spot was the degree to which cubesat programs were bringing students into STEM educational programs. This is an important discussion that you must hear. If you have a question or comment for either of our guests, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to them.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:19:22 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Dennis Stone, Sunday, 10-25-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dennis Stone. Topics: World Space Week Association, COTS program, commercial space. We started our first segment with a welcome to Dennis Stone to The Space Show and began talking about the World Space Week Association and program. For more information about World Space Week, please visit www.worldspaceweek.org. World Space Week is always Oct. 4-12 and next year there will be Space Show programming in support of World Space Week. Mr. Stone took us through the organization's history and shared us with some of the highlights of this year's program plus recent years. It was interesting to learn that often the poorer nations or developing nations have more interest and space activities than the developed nations. We brainstorm for a while as to why that might be the case. What do you think? Mr. Stone also talked with us about various national space agency support of World Space Week. No surprises to learn that small nations seem to support World Space Week more than the space age...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dennis Stone. Topics: World Space Week Association, COTS program, commercial space. We started our first segment with a welcome to Dennis Stone to The Space Show and began talking about the World Space Week Association and program. For more information about World Space Week, please visit www.worldspaceweek.org. World Space Week is always Oct. 4-12 and next year there will be Space Show programming in support of World Space Week. Mr. Stone took us through the organization's history and shared us with some of the highlights of this year's program plus recent years. It was interesting to learn that often the poorer nations or developing nations have more interest and space activities than the developed nations. We brainstorm for a while as to why that might be the case. What do you think? Mr. Stone also talked with us about various national space agency support of World Space Week. No surprises to learn that small nations seem to support World Space Week more than the space agencies of the larger nations. Dennis was asked about interest in space exploration, human spaceflight and science missions. Listen to what he said about the diversity of space interest among World Space Week participants. Dennis mentioned that in some cases World Space Week has actually helped to create a national space agency and space program in a specific country. As we started segment two, Dennis was asked if so many diverse space advocacy voices being expressed at different times throughout the year were helpful or would a larger unified voice be more effective. Don't miss his comments on this issue. About the middle of this segment, we switched to the topic of commercial space as Mr. Stone is the Manager of Program integration for NASA's Commercial Crew &amp; Cargo Program. We talked at length about COTS and the COTS participants. We inquired about opening COTS up to a more beginning stage of commercial space company rather than only those companies that could fund themselves. Of course the Augustine Commission report came up and the drive to commercializing space access made much sense in our discussion. We talked about space being an investment in wealth building, not just an expense and Dennis frequently cited the early start of airmail as a role model. Microgravity came up during our commercial space discussion as did the biotech industry and space based manufacturing. As we started the third segment and while talking about microgravity, Dennis told us about a special website devoted to microgravity research. Please visit www.labflight.com. During this segment, we discussed commercial projects on the ISS and how to gain access to doing an ISS commercial project. Dennis directed us to the National Lab Program so if you are interested in that, please check it out. If you want to send a comment or question to Dennis Stone please use dstone@worldspaceweek.org or the COTS website</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dennis Stone. Topics: World Space Week Association, COTS program, commercial space. We started our first segment with a welcome to Dennis Stone to The Space Show and began talking about the World Space Week Association and program. For more information about World Space Week, please visit www.worldspaceweek.org. World Space Week is always Oct. 4-12 and next year there will be Space Show programming in support of World Space Week. Mr. Stone took us through the organization's history and shared us with some of the highlights of this year's program plus recent years. It was interesting to learn that often the poorer nations or developing nations have more interest and space activities than the developed nations. We brainstorm for a while as to why that might be the case. What do you think? Mr. Stone also talked with us about various national space agency support of World Space Week. No surprises to learn that small nations seem to support World Space Week more than the space agencies of the larger nations. Dennis was asked about interest in space exploration, human spaceflight and science missions. Listen to what he said about the diversity of space interest among World Space Week participants. Dennis mentioned that in some cases World Space Week has actually helped to create a national space agency and space program in a specific country. As we started segment two, Dennis was asked if so many diverse space advocacy voices being expressed at different times throughout the year were helpful or would a larger unified voice be more effective. Don't miss his comments on this issue. About the middle of this segment, we switched to the topic of commercial space as Mr. Stone is the Manager of Program integration for NASA's Commercial Crew &amp; Cargo Program. We talked at length about COTS and the COTS participants. We inquired about opening COTS up to a more beginning stage of commercial space company rather than only those companies that could fund themselves. Of course the Augustine Commission report came up and the drive to commercializing space access made much sense in our discussion. We talked about space being an investment in wealth building, not just an expense and Dennis frequently cited the early start of airmail as a role model. Microgravity came up during our commercial space discussion as did the biotech industry and space based manufacturing. As we started the third segment and while talking about microgravity, Dennis told us about a special website devoted to microgravity research. Please visit www.labflight.com. During this segment, we discussed commercial projects on the ISS and how to gain access to doing an ISS commercial project. Dennis directed us to the National Lab Program so if you are interested in that, please check it out. If you want to send a comment or question to Dennis Stone please use dstone@worldspaceweek.org or the COTS website</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:59:13 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Doris Hamill, Friday, 10-23-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Doris Hamill. Topics: NASA's mission and vision, commercializing human space flight. Our guest, Doris Hamill, wrote two excellent Space Review articles that formed the basis for this Space Show program. The articles, "To Reach Ever Further: A Mission and a Vision for NASA," Oct. 12, 2009 (www.thespacereview.com/article/1487/1#) and "The Second Fifty Years: Expanding Human Presence On The Space Frontier," Oct. 19, 2009 (www.thespacereview.com/article/1492/1) should be read as part of this program. In our first segment, Ms. Hamill outlined the goals and the purpose for NASA as a mandate and included from her Oct. 19th article the need for exploring space for scientific knowledge, using technology to expand the human presence throughout space, and using space to benefit humans using engineering, commercial, and operations practices. Our discussion included looking at the reasons for people going to space, asking the question if we need a human space presence for most things in s...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Doris Hamill. Topics: NASA's mission and vision, commercializing human space flight. Our guest, Doris Hamill, wrote two excellent Space Review articles that formed the basis for this Space Show program. The articles, "To Reach Ever Further: A Mission and a Vision for NASA," Oct. 12, 2009 (www.thespacereview.com/article/1487/1#) and "The Second Fifty Years: Expanding Human Presence On The Space Frontier," Oct. 19, 2009 (www.thespacereview.com/article/1492/1) should be read as part of this program. In our first segment, Ms. Hamill outlined the goals and the purpose for NASA as a mandate and included from her Oct. 19th article the need for exploring space for scientific knowledge, using technology to expand the human presence throughout space, and using space to benefit humans using engineering, commercial, and operations practices. Our discussion included looking at the reasons for people going to space, asking the question if we need a human space presence for most things in space or not, and looking at the proper role of inspiration in our space policy. In the second segment in response to a listener question, Ms. Hamill commented that space was not a cure all for all our society ills and cited the space program of the 1960's as an example. We also talked about whether Mars should be the focus of our attention and the challenges and timing involved in a humans to Mars mission. Our guest said we needed lots more technology power to go to Mars. Ms. Hamill did say we have learned much and are very experienced in LEO but for elsewhere in space, we still have much to learn. She suggested the Moon was the best training ground. During this segment in response to a listener question, orbital space tourism was briefly talked about, especially the differences required over and above suborbital tourism. A phrase Ms. Hamill used to describe some of the fanciful thinking and statements on some of these subjects was the "optimism of ignorance." Make sure you listen to this complete discussion as this term was used a few times during our interview. Toward the end of this segment, I asked her to describe what she meant by the term "Valley of Death" which was used in her Oct. 19th article. Don't miss her complete discussion on this subject as part of what she had to say about Technology Review Levels. In the third segment, we talked about commercializing human spaceflight. Our guest told us about the studies and work she did several years ago when she was with Space Hab and how it was largely ignored by NASA and others. Pay attention to her commercial space model as in my opinion, it represents an excellent path to space commercialization. Doris also clarified cost versus value as used in the commercial world rather than the NASA and contractor world. In the fourth and final segment, we talked about commercial returns and the time it might take for an ROI to be achieved. Ms. Hamill said we must be prepared to allow sufficient time for commercialization to develop. Toward the end of this segment, we switched topics to discuss NASA and "green engineering." Doris went through four main areas with the last one being revolutionary technologies. Do not miss this discussion. Near the end of the show, a listener asked her about space solar power and she reported back that it was not likely to close the business case for SSP. She said the uses for SSP were within space, beaming to one satellite or another, to the surface of the Moon, eventually to Mars and more. If you have a question or comment for Doris Hamill, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to her.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Doris Hamill. Topics: NASA's mission and vision, commercializing human space flight. Our guest, Doris Hamill, wrote two excellent Space Review articles that formed the basis for this Space Show program. The articles, "To Reach Ever Further: A Mission and a Vision for NASA," Oct. 12, 2009 (www.thespacereview.com/article/1487/1#) and "The Second Fifty Years: Expanding Human Presence On The Space Frontier," Oct. 19, 2009 (www.thespacereview.com/article/1492/1) should be read as part of this program. In our first segment, Ms. Hamill outlined the goals and the purpose for NASA as a mandate and included from her Oct. 19th article the need for exploring space for scientific knowledge, using technology to expand the human presence throughout space, and using space to benefit humans using engineering, commercial, and operations practices. Our discussion included looking at the reasons for people going to space, asking the question if we need a human space presence for most things in space or not, and looking at the proper role of inspiration in our space policy. In the second segment in response to a listener question, Ms. Hamill commented that space was not a cure all for all our society ills and cited the space program of the 1960's as an example. We also talked about whether Mars should be the focus of our attention and the challenges and timing involved in a humans to Mars mission. Our guest said we needed lots more technology power to go to Mars. Ms. Hamill did say we have learned much and are very experienced in LEO but for elsewhere in space, we still have much to learn. She suggested the Moon was the best training ground. During this segment in response to a listener question, orbital space tourism was briefly talked about, especially the differences required over and above suborbital tourism. A phrase Ms. Hamill used to describe some of the fanciful thinking and statements on some of these subjects was the "optimism of ignorance." Make sure you listen to this complete discussion as this term was used a few times during our interview. Toward the end of this segment, I asked her to describe what she meant by the term "Valley of Death" which was used in her Oct. 19th article. Don't miss her complete discussion on this subject as part of what she had to say about Technology Review Levels. In the third segment, we talked about commercializing human spaceflight. Our guest told us about the studies and work she did several years ago when she was with Space Hab and how it was largely ignored by NASA and others. Pay attention to her commercial space model as in my opinion, it represents an excellent path to space commercialization. Doris also clarified cost versus value as used in the commercial world rather than the NASA and contractor world. In the fourth and final segment, we talked about commercial returns and the time it might take for an ROI to be achieved. Ms. Hamill said we must be prepared to allow sufficient time for commercialization to develop. Toward the end of this segment, we switched topics to discuss NASA and "green engineering." Doris went through four main areas with the last one being revolutionary technologies. Do not miss this discussion. Near the end of the show, a listener asked her about space solar power and she reported back that it was not likely to close the business case for SSP. She said the uses for SSP were within space, beaming to one satellite or another, to the surface of the Moon, eventually to Mars and more. If you have a question or comment for Doris Hamill, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to her.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Part Two, Futron 2009 Space Competitive Index, Tuesday, 10-20-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: Jacob Gullish, David Vaccaro. Topics: Space competitiveness, NewSpace, commercial space, military space. This program was Part 2 of our two part series featuring the "Futron 2009 Space Competitiveness Index: A Comparative Analysis of How Countries Invest In and Benefit from Space." You can download the Executive Summary from www.futron.com or send an email request for the pdf file to me. The full report is available for purchase from the Futron website. In the first segment, we started with military space. Regardless of whether we consider military, civil, commercial, or non-profit space, the who, what, and how has to be examined. We talked about key trends going forward. For 2009, the report examined five segments, Space Exploration, Military Space, Positioning Navigation and Timing (PNT), Remote Sensing, and Technology Readiness and Capability. We focused on GPS or PNT during this segment. Listener Henry asked about the commercial market given vendors do not have any infra...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Jacob Gullish, David Vaccaro. Topics: Space competitiveness, NewSpace, commercial space, military space. This program was Part 2 of our two part series featuring the "Futron 2009 Space Competitiveness Index: A Comparative Analysis of How Countries Invest In and Benefit from Space." You can download the Executive Summary from www.futron.com or send an email request for the pdf file to me. The full report is available for purchase from the Futron website. In the first segment, we started with military space. Regardless of whether we consider military, civil, commercial, or non-profit space, the who, what, and how has to be examined. We talked about key trends going forward. For 2009, the report examined five segments, Space Exploration, Military Space, Positioning Navigation and Timing (PNT), Remote Sensing, and Technology Readiness and Capability. We focused on GPS or PNT during this segment. Listener Henry asked about the commercial market given vendors do not have any infrastructure overhead to deal with, then extrapolating this to the idea of the government investing in and developing a fully reusable cost effective RLV thus facilitating extensive commercial enterprise. This was a great discussion, don't miss it. In our second segment, we talked about the need for strategic thinking in policy making. As for military space, there was, and still is, a need to understand how the projection of power works with relationships. We discussed military space market drivers and our guests explained some important differences in the structure of military space between the United States and Russia. They also said that their analysis showed the U.S. as being a clear leader in the military space arena. However, when they looked at subsets of military space, they found that the U.S. lead was asymmetrically offset by others with specific programs. An example cited was the Chinese ASAT program. A listener asked our guests if they were able to evaluate and compute a metric for black technology entering into the various space segments. Both our guests talked in some detail about this, it?s another must hear discussion. Another point made by both guests was that the U.S. was unique among the countries regarding space policy due to our global influence. Most of the other nations are regional in their needs and scope. Rocket Racing was mentioned as an area of future interest in a new class, Recreational Space. Inspiration was also described as a metric. Our third segment started with Earth Observation and global space technology issues. Jay and David told us that the U.S. does not have the lead in Earth Observation, Europe does, mainly because Europe has developed public-private partnerships more than the U.S. Listener Marilyn asked about barriers to entry. Our guests suggested with commercial platforms and products widely available and network sharing, barriers to entry were being reduced. They said the main barrier to entry remained high launch cost, but by partnering with other nations or proportionally participating in a system, space interested participants were finding ways to mitigate the high launch cost problem. Still, lowering launch costs is probably the one item which would facilitate more space development at all levels were their cost effective space access. NewSpace came up and our guests pointed out that there were other countries with a NewSpace focus including the U.A.E, Dubai, and Singapore although their focus was targeted and not broad based as in the United States. Listener Roger asked David and Jay if they found traces of the "giggle factor" regarding space tourism and NewSpace. Our guests said no. Another question was asked about the potential interest in NewSpace by financial markets including those in London and New York. Listen to what our guests had to say about this as well as the timing for possible interest or investment in NewSpace. An Orlando listener asked about the</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Jacob Gullish, David Vaccaro. Topics: Space competitiveness, NewSpace, commercial space, military space. This program was Part 2 of our two part series featuring the "Futron 2009 Space Competitiveness Index: A Comparative Analysis of How Countries Invest In and Benefit from Space." You can download the Executive Summary from www.futron.com or send an email request for the pdf file to me. The full report is available for purchase from the Futron website. In the first segment, we started with military space. Regardless of whether we consider military, civil, commercial, or non-profit space, the who, what, and how has to be examined. We talked about key trends going forward. For 2009, the report examined five segments, Space Exploration, Military Space, Positioning Navigation and Timing (PNT), Remote Sensing, and Technology Readiness and Capability. We focused on GPS or PNT during this segment. Listener Henry asked about the commercial market given vendors do not have any infrastructure overhead to deal with, then extrapolating this to the idea of the government investing in and developing a fully reusable cost effective RLV thus facilitating extensive commercial enterprise. This was a great discussion, don't miss it. In our second segment, we talked about the need for strategic thinking in policy making. As for military space, there was, and still is, a need to understand how the projection of power works with relationships. We discussed military space market drivers and our guests explained some important differences in the structure of military space between the United States and Russia. They also said that their analysis showed the U.S. as being a clear leader in the military space arena. However, when they looked at subsets of military space, they found that the U.S. lead was asymmetrically offset by others with specific programs. An example cited was the Chinese ASAT program. A listener asked our guests if they were able to evaluate and compute a metric for black technology entering into the various space segments. Both our guests talked in some detail about this, it?s another must hear discussion. Another point made by both guests was that the U.S. was unique among the countries regarding space policy due to our global influence. Most of the other nations are regional in their needs and scope. Rocket Racing was mentioned as an area of future interest in a new class, Recreational Space. Inspiration was also described as a metric. Our third segment started with Earth Observation and global space technology issues. Jay and David told us that the U.S. does not have the lead in Earth Observation, Europe does, mainly because Europe has developed public-private partnerships more than the U.S. Listener Marilyn asked about barriers to entry. Our guests suggested with commercial platforms and products widely available and network sharing, barriers to entry were being reduced. They said the main barrier to entry remained high launch cost, but by partnering with other nations or proportionally participating in a system, space interested participants were finding ways to mitigate the high launch cost problem. Still, lowering launch costs is probably the one item which would facilitate more space development at all levels were their cost effective space access. NewSpace came up and our guests pointed out that there were other countries with a NewSpace focus including the U.A.E, Dubai, and Singapore although their focus was targeted and not broad based as in the United States. Listener Roger asked David and Jay if they found traces of the "giggle factor" regarding space tourism and NewSpace. Our guests said no. Another question was asked about the potential interest in NewSpace by financial markets including those in London and New York. Listen to what our guests had to say about this as well as the timing for possible interest or investment in NewSpace. An Orlando listener asked about the</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:52:52 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Futron Space Competitive Index 2009 Part 1, 10-19-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: David Vaccaro, Jacob Gullish. Topics: space competitiveness, commercial space, space policy, Futron. Today's Space Show was Part One of a two part series examining the 2009 Futron Space Competitive Index. You can download the 12 page Executive Summary by visiting www.futron.com or by sending me an email requesting the .pdf. In our first segment, our two guests explained the basics of the Futron Competitive Study, what it represents, how it was done and why Futron does this report. Our guests described the qualitative environment of passion and emotion which permeates space so they merged with those attributes the quantitative data analysis to come up with the Space Competitive Index. We talked about trends which you will want to note, along with issues unique to civil, government, and private space. In response to a listener question, GPS was identified as by far the leading space industry with the U.S. is the dominant position of this particular industry. You don't want to ...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: David Vaccaro, Jacob Gullish. Topics: space competitiveness, commercial space, space policy, Futron. Today's Space Show was Part One of a two part series examining the 2009 Futron Space Competitive Index. You can download the 12 page Executive Summary by visiting www.futron.com or by sending me an email requesting the .pdf. In our first segment, our two guests explained the basics of the Futron Competitive Study, what it represents, how it was done and why Futron does this report. Our guests described the qualitative environment of passion and emotion which permeates space so they merged with those attributes the quantitative data analysis to come up with the Space Competitive Index. We talked about trends which you will want to note, along with issues unique to civil, government, and private space. In response to a listener question, GPS was identified as by far the leading space industry with the U.S. is the dominant position of this particular industry. You don't want to miss this discussion. We started the second segment with a discussion of the key issues represented in the Futron analysis and report regarding the high level trends reported in 2009 Space Competitive Index. Our guests discussed these key issues in detail in this segment. We also talked about the need and value of a country offering transparency in their industry data and we looked at what different nations spend on space relative to their overall budgets. The ISS and other international partnerships were mentioned and as we learned, they add extra value to the analysis equations and models for those nations engaged in international cooperative efforts for space development. The issue of guarding against misleading data or disinformation and the lack of transparency was brought up and our guests went to great length to tell us how they worked to prevent bias and guard against bogus information or error. Based on the feedback they receive from countries reported on and participants in the various space programs and industry segments, there is a high confidence level in their screening and filtering efforts. In the final segment, Segment Three, we started out asking Jay and David if India, Japan, and China had the capability of going to the Moon with humans. You will want to hear what both our guests said about this. Hint: You bet! The subjects of spaceports came up as did NewSpace and space entrepreneurism in countries examined by this report. Toward the end of the show, specific questions were asked about the space programs of Israel, Iran, and N. Korea. If you want to send a comment or question to our guests, please do so as follows: David Vaccaro is dvaccaro@futron.com. Jay Gullish is jgullish@futron.com</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: David Vaccaro, Jacob Gullish. Topics: space competitiveness, commercial space, space policy, Futron. Today's Space Show was Part One of a two part series examining the 2009 Futron Space Competitive Index. You can download the 12 page Executive Summary by visiting www.futron.com or by sending me an email requesting the .pdf. In our first segment, our two guests explained the basics of the Futron Competitive Study, what it represents, how it was done and why Futron does this report. Our guests described the qualitative environment of passion and emotion which permeates space so they merged with those attributes the quantitative data analysis to come up with the Space Competitive Index. We talked about trends which you will want to note, along with issues unique to civil, government, and private space. In response to a listener question, GPS was identified as by far the leading space industry with the U.S. is the dominant position of this particular industry. You don't want to miss this discussion. We started the second segment with a discussion of the key issues represented in the Futron analysis and report regarding the high level trends reported in 2009 Space Competitive Index. Our guests discussed these key issues in detail in this segment. We also talked about the need and value of a country offering transparency in their industry data and we looked at what different nations spend on space relative to their overall budgets. The ISS and other international partnerships were mentioned and as we learned, they add extra value to the analysis equations and models for those nations engaged in international cooperative efforts for space development. The issue of guarding against misleading data or disinformation and the lack of transparency was brought up and our guests went to great length to tell us how they worked to prevent bias and guard against bogus information or error. Based on the feedback they receive from countries reported on and participants in the various space programs and industry segments, there is a high confidence level in their screening and filtering efforts. In the final segment, Segment Three, we started out asking Jay and David if India, Japan, and China had the capability of going to the Moon with humans. You will want to hear what both our guests said about this. Hint: You bet! The subjects of spaceports came up as did NewSpace and space entrepreneurism in countries examined by this report. Toward the end of the show, specific questions were asked about the space programs of Israel, Iran, and N. Korea. If you want to send a comment or question to our guests, please do so as follows: David Vaccaro is dvaccaro@futron.com. Jay Gullish is jgullish@futron.com</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:21:40 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Ralph Nansen, Sunday, 10-18-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Ralph Nansen. Topics: SSP, economics, low cost space access, RLV, policy and political leadership. Ralph Nansen was our guest today to discuss space solar power (SSP) and his new book by Apogee, "Energy Crisis: Solution From Space." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation website at www.onegiantleapfoundaton.org/books. Please purchase your copy using this link so that Amazon contributes to The Space Show. In the first segment, Mr. Nansen told us why he wrote this book and its premise about the needs and benefits of solving our energy problems from space. He said over and over again that the biggest challenge was low cost space transportation and that we needed the RLV to accomplish this. The problem today with SSP is the initial cost which is largely skewed by the high launch cost. Also in this segment we talked about market size for SSP and recouping investment costs. Toward the end of the first segment, Mr. Nansen said that eventually space solar power would...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Ralph Nansen. Topics: SSP, economics, low cost space access, RLV, policy and political leadership. Ralph Nansen was our guest today to discuss space solar power (SSP) and his new book by Apogee, "Energy Crisis: Solution From Space." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation website at www.onegiantleapfoundaton.org/books. Please purchase your copy using this link so that Amazon contributes to The Space Show. In the first segment, Mr. Nansen told us why he wrote this book and its premise about the needs and benefits of solving our energy problems from space. He said over and over again that the biggest challenge was low cost space transportation and that we needed the RLV to accomplish this. The problem today with SSP is the initial cost which is largely skewed by the high launch cost. Also in this segment we talked about market size for SSP and recouping investment costs. Toward the end of the first segment, Mr. Nansen said that eventually space solar power would cost only a few cents per kwh and he compared it to some of the larger hydroelectric projects in the United States such as the Grand Coulee Dam. He also suggested that at this time, the only potential large commercial space markets were space tourism and SSP. In the second segment which took us through to the end of today's program, we led off with a listener phone call about radiation, humans building the satellites in a radiation environment, material degradation due to radiation. Don't miss what Mr. Nansen had to say in addressing these issues and questions. Mr. Nansen received many questions about proof of concept for SSP and he made a point of separating a demonstration project from proof of concept. He said a demonstration project was essential for getting the utility companies and others on board with SSP. As for proof of concept, he said that already existed and was not in question. A question came in about potential environmental damage from a large number of rocket launches. Ralph addressed this with our being able to use different fuels in the future. He called for using the ISS as an SSP LEO demonstrator. At the end of the program, we both called for U.S. space policy leadership in an international consortium. Ralph made the point several times during the interview that other nations have the technical know-how to do this and are motivated. He did not want to see the United State lose out on this important path to future economic wealth and development. Mr. Nansen said we needed investment, not just investing in technology. If you have an email question or comment for Ralph Nansen, please send it to him at nansens@centurytel.net.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Ralph Nansen. Topics: SSP, economics, low cost space access, RLV, policy and political leadership. Ralph Nansen was our guest today to discuss space solar power (SSP) and his new book by Apogee, "Energy Crisis: Solution From Space." This book is available on the One Giant Leap Foundation website at www.onegiantleapfoundaton.org/books. Please purchase your copy using this link so that Amazon contributes to The Space Show. In the first segment, Mr. Nansen told us why he wrote this book and its premise about the needs and benefits of solving our energy problems from space. He said over and over again that the biggest challenge was low cost space transportation and that we needed the RLV to accomplish this. The problem today with SSP is the initial cost which is largely skewed by the high launch cost. Also in this segment we talked about market size for SSP and recouping investment costs. Toward the end of the first segment, Mr. Nansen said that eventually space solar power would cost only a few cents per kwh and he compared it to some of the larger hydroelectric projects in the United States such as the Grand Coulee Dam. He also suggested that at this time, the only potential large commercial space markets were space tourism and SSP. In the second segment which took us through to the end of today's program, we led off with a listener phone call about radiation, humans building the satellites in a radiation environment, material degradation due to radiation. Don't miss what Mr. Nansen had to say in addressing these issues and questions. Mr. Nansen received many questions about proof of concept for SSP and he made a point of separating a demonstration project from proof of concept. He said a demonstration project was essential for getting the utility companies and others on board with SSP. As for proof of concept, he said that already existed and was not in question. A question came in about potential environmental damage from a large number of rocket launches. Ralph addressed this with our being able to use different fuels in the future. He called for using the ISS as an SSP LEO demonstrator. At the end of the program, we both called for U.S. space policy leadership in an international consortium. Ralph made the point several times during the interview that other nations have the technical know-how to do this and are motivated. He did not want to see the United State lose out on this important path to future economic wealth and development. Mr. Nansen said we needed investment, not just investing in technology. If you have an email question or comment for Ralph Nansen, please send it to him at nansens@centurytel.net.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:09:27 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Jim Logan, Friday, 10-16-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Jim Logan. Topics: Reasons for human spaceflight, human factors issues, biomedical and bioengineering for long term space travel/settlement, space tourism. Dr. Jim Logan returned to The Space Show to discuss several very important topics in this two hour program. Please note that Dr. Logan's comments are his own and in no way was he speaking for NASA, any agency, program, or anyone else. In our first segment, Dr. Logan was asked if he could identify the compelling reason for human spaceflight or if it even mattered with the general public. Dr. Logan had much to say on this issue including his observations for the trend over the years for space not resonating with the public. We talked about the fact that most people are woefully and poorly educated about our space program and policy. For example, he said many people think the NASA budget is at least 10% of the federal budget when in fact it?s less than 1%. During this segment, he also said that NASA's focus on building th...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Jim Logan. Topics: Reasons for human spaceflight, human factors issues, biomedical and bioengineering for long term space travel/settlement, space tourism. Dr. Jim Logan returned to The Space Show to discuss several very important topics in this two hour program. Please note that Dr. Logan's comments are his own and in no way was he speaking for NASA, any agency, program, or anyone else. In our first segment, Dr. Logan was asked if he could identify the compelling reason for human spaceflight or if it even mattered with the general public. Dr. Logan had much to say on this issue including his observations for the trend over the years for space not resonating with the public. We talked about the fact that most people are woefully and poorly educated about our space program and policy. For example, he said many people think the NASA budget is at least 10% of the federal budget when in fact it?s less than 1%. During this segment, he also said that NASA's focus on building the vehicle was misplaced. In his personal opinion, the focus should be on the mission, not building the vehicle. In the second segment, we started out by asking Dr. Logan about biomedical showstoppers for long-term human habitation in space. One point he made was that if the duration of the mission was around two weeks to several months, there were probably no showstoppers. However in missions beyond LEO and over six months, there is an entirely different life science paradigm. He mentioned three main biomedical challenges including radiation, hypogravity, and the synergistic effect of both of these and other factors. This is a very important discussion so don't miss it. Dr. Logan also spoke about countermeasures being less than effective and producing side effects that introduce complications for solving the problem in the first place. We talked about gravity, artificial gravity and pseudo-gravity as compared to the real thing. Dr. Logan suggested that the bad news was that as our science has improved, our problems to counter have become more severe. As for spinning a vehicle to provide artificial gravity, these would have to be very large vehicles to minimize adverse impacts on the crew and, after 48 years of human spaceflight, we still do not know the dose, frequency, and side effects of gravity issues. Later in this segment, the Hubble Space Telescope repair mission was brought up as an example of the merger of the science, technical and human spaceflight efforts. Don't miss Dr. Logan's comments on this subject. At the end of the segment, Dr. Logan was asked about the impact of space advocacy on space policy and NASA. We started our third segment with a question from Mel regarding the specific path to take to become an aerospace medicine doctor. Mel's question asked for specific recommendations and Jim provided specifics for the paths to take to have a specialty in aerospace medicine. This is probably the most comprehensive outline of how to accomplish this goal that has been discussed on The Space Show so don't miss the advice and suggestions offered by Dr. Logan. Later in this segment, we talked about the Augustine Commission report and commercial spaceflight. Space tourism also came up as did possible silver bullets for pushing forward with commercial space development. Near the end of this segment, he was asked about human factors for suborbital space tourism and said that in his opinion, it would be unethical for a company to allow a suborbital passenger to go for a ride without specific flight profile centrifuge training. This is a must hear discussion. In the fourth and final segment, we led off with a question for Dr. Logan about the likelihood of the nations on this planet pulling together to thwart something like a NEO heading for Earth collision. Dr. Logan said he was an optimist and said we would pull together. But a question he raised in this discussion was is intelligence its own executioner? We spoke</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Jim Logan. Topics: Reasons for human spaceflight, human factors issues, biomedical and bioengineering for long term space travel/settlement, space tourism. Dr. Jim Logan returned to The Space Show to discuss several very important topics in this two hour program. Please note that Dr. Logan's comments are his own and in no way was he speaking for NASA, any agency, program, or anyone else. In our first segment, Dr. Logan was asked if he could identify the compelling reason for human spaceflight or if it even mattered with the general public. Dr. Logan had much to say on this issue including his observations for the trend over the years for space not resonating with the public. We talked about the fact that most people are woefully and poorly educated about our space program and policy. For example, he said many people think the NASA budget is at least 10% of the federal budget when in fact it?s less than 1%. During this segment, he also said that NASA's focus on building the vehicle was misplaced. In his personal opinion, the focus should be on the mission, not building the vehicle. In the second segment, we started out by asking Dr. Logan about biomedical showstoppers for long-term human habitation in space. One point he made was that if the duration of the mission was around two weeks to several months, there were probably no showstoppers. However in missions beyond LEO and over six months, there is an entirely different life science paradigm. He mentioned three main biomedical challenges including radiation, hypogravity, and the synergistic effect of both of these and other factors. This is a very important discussion so don't miss it. Dr. Logan also spoke about countermeasures being less than effective and producing side effects that introduce complications for solving the problem in the first place. We talked about gravity, artificial gravity and pseudo-gravity as compared to the real thing. Dr. Logan suggested that the bad news was that as our science has improved, our problems to counter have become more severe. As for spinning a vehicle to provide artificial gravity, these would have to be very large vehicles to minimize adverse impacts on the crew and, after 48 years of human spaceflight, we still do not know the dose, frequency, and side effects of gravity issues. Later in this segment, the Hubble Space Telescope repair mission was brought up as an example of the merger of the science, technical and human spaceflight efforts. Don't miss Dr. Logan's comments on this subject. At the end of the segment, Dr. Logan was asked about the impact of space advocacy on space policy and NASA. We started our third segment with a question from Mel regarding the specific path to take to become an aerospace medicine doctor. Mel's question asked for specific recommendations and Jim provided specifics for the paths to take to have a specialty in aerospace medicine. This is probably the most comprehensive outline of how to accomplish this goal that has been discussed on The Space Show so don't miss the advice and suggestions offered by Dr. Logan. Later in this segment, we talked about the Augustine Commission report and commercial spaceflight. Space tourism also came up as did possible silver bullets for pushing forward with commercial space development. Near the end of this segment, he was asked about human factors for suborbital space tourism and said that in his opinion, it would be unethical for a company to allow a suborbital passenger to go for a ride without specific flight profile centrifuge training. This is a must hear discussion. In the fourth and final segment, we led off with a question for Dr. Logan about the likelihood of the nations on this planet pulling together to thwart something like a NEO heading for Earth collision. Dr. Logan said he was an optimist and said we would pull together. But a question he raised in this discussion was is intelligence its own executioner? We spoke</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Open Lines, tuesday, 10-13-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Open Lines. Topics: why human spaceflight, NASA, Fox News, making the case for space, different paths to space development. In the first segment of this Open Lines program, I talked about making the compelling case for human spaceflight. I mentioned a blog article on this subject on www.outofthecradle.net where blogger Ken said that the case was being made all the time. I talked about my responses and those of a few others commenting on Ken's article saying it was not so. I then told about hearing comments on Fox News broadcasts regarding LCROSS by Shepard Smith and Neil Cavuto saying that with that was going on in the country today, all of this money spent on space seemed inappropriate. I used these Fox News commentator comments to illustrate that we were not doing a good job of making a compelling case for space let alone human spaceflight to the general public. Before going to the phone lines, I brought up some questions sent me by listener Kelly asking why it costs NASA s...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Open Lines. Topics: why human spaceflight, NASA, Fox News, making the case for space, different paths to space development. In the first segment of this Open Lines program, I talked about making the compelling case for human spaceflight. I mentioned a blog article on this subject on www.outofthecradle.net where blogger Ken said that the case was being made all the time. I talked about my responses and those of a few others commenting on Ken's article saying it was not so. I then told about hearing comments on Fox News broadcasts regarding LCROSS by Shepard Smith and Neil Cavuto saying that with that was going on in the country today, all of this money spent on space seemed inappropriate. I used these Fox News commentator comments to illustrate that we were not doing a good job of making a compelling case for space let alone human spaceflight to the general public. Before going to the phone lines, I brought up some questions sent me by listener Kelly asking why it costs NASA so much more to do various things today as compared to doing similar things years and decades ago. I threw Kelly's four specific questions to the audience to comment on during the show. Caller Douglas Mallette called in to talk about the compelling reason for human spaceflight and he mentioned his new book, "Turning Point." I disagreed with much of what Doug talked about but we had a good discussion that you don't want to miss. This topic became the program theme for the rest of the show. We started the second segment with a call from Charles Pooley saying that the path to space development was with his Microlaunchers concept, a concept he has spoken about before on The Space Show. He suggested we table human spaceflight until we work our way back to it through the microlaunches step by step process that eventually takes us back to putting humans in space. He compares the microlauncher idea to the start of the computer industry with micro computers serving as the business model. When asked what he would do with NASA in his plan, he said it should become like the old NACA butt that it would be largely irrelevant. Charles then updated us on the Lunar Lander Challenge with the four contestants in the Mojave area. In the third and final segment, listener Kelly called in to argue that NASA being a jobs program is not something we want to see happen but we are at risk of that being the purpose of NASA at this time. We had phone line noise with Kelly's call, but he was on long enough to take issue with some of the statements made by the other callers. I read several of the listener emails regarding their having seen the Fox News videos regarding the Cavuto comments or the actual live broadcasts. The listeners agreed that we needed to do a much better job in making the case for space than we have been doing. Toward the end of the show, I read the new lunar development proposal by Buzz Aldrin, a copy of which I had received earlier in the day from The Moon Society. You can see his full proposal on lunar development by visiting the websites I mentioned on air. If you have a question or comment for any of the callers to this Open Lines show, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person of your request. I welcome your general comments and feedback as always.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Open Lines. Topics: why human spaceflight, NASA, Fox News, making the case for space, different paths to space development. In the first segment of this Open Lines program, I talked about making the compelling case for human spaceflight. I mentioned a blog article on this subject on www.outofthecradle.net where blogger Ken said that the case was being made all the time. I talked about my responses and those of a few others commenting on Ken's article saying it was not so. I then told about hearing comments on Fox News broadcasts regarding LCROSS by Shepard Smith and Neil Cavuto saying that with that was going on in the country today, all of this money spent on space seemed inappropriate. I used these Fox News commentator comments to illustrate that we were not doing a good job of making a compelling case for space let alone human spaceflight to the general public. Before going to the phone lines, I brought up some questions sent me by listener Kelly asking why it costs NASA so much more to do various things today as compared to doing similar things years and decades ago. I threw Kelly's four specific questions to the audience to comment on during the show. Caller Douglas Mallette called in to talk about the compelling reason for human spaceflight and he mentioned his new book, "Turning Point." I disagreed with much of what Doug talked about but we had a good discussion that you don't want to miss. This topic became the program theme for the rest of the show. We started the second segment with a call from Charles Pooley saying that the path to space development was with his Microlaunchers concept, a concept he has spoken about before on The Space Show. He suggested we table human spaceflight until we work our way back to it through the microlaunches step by step process that eventually takes us back to putting humans in space. He compares the microlauncher idea to the start of the computer industry with micro computers serving as the business model. When asked what he would do with NASA in his plan, he said it should become like the old NACA butt that it would be largely irrelevant. Charles then updated us on the Lunar Lander Challenge with the four contestants in the Mojave area. In the third and final segment, listener Kelly called in to argue that NASA being a jobs program is not something we want to see happen but we are at risk of that being the purpose of NASA at this time. We had phone line noise with Kelly's call, but he was on long enough to take issue with some of the statements made by the other callers. I read several of the listener emails regarding their having seen the Fox News videos regarding the Cavuto comments or the actual live broadcasts. The listeners agreed that we needed to do a much better job in making the case for space than we have been doing. Toward the end of the show, I read the new lunar development proposal by Buzz Aldrin, a copy of which I had received earlier in the day from The Moon Society. You can see his full proposal on lunar development by visiting the websites I mentioned on air. If you have a question or comment for any of the callers to this Open Lines show, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person of your request. I welcome your general comments and feedback as always.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:45:36 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Don Lincoln, Monday, 10-12-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Don Lincoln. Topics: Large Hadron Collider (LHC), particle physics, basic science and NASA research funding,. Don Lincoln was the guest for this Space Show program to talk about his new book, "The Quantum Frontier: The Large Hadron Collider." This book is available for purchase from One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) as an Amazon partner at http://www.amazon.com/dp/0801891442?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you purchase this book through OGLF, part of your purchase goes to The Space Show/OGLF by Amazon so you help The Space Show with your purchase. During the first segment, our guest gave us the basics of his book as well as the LHC. We went over the ideas that some harbor and that are on the internet that the LHC would endanger the Earth. We talked about microscopic black holes, strangelets, vacuum bubbles and more. Don explained why there is no danger to the Earth referencing cosmic rays and the fact that only two proton beams are ever collided with one another. In response...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Don Lincoln. Topics: Large Hadron Collider (LHC), particle physics, basic science and NASA research funding,. Don Lincoln was the guest for this Space Show program to talk about his new book, "The Quantum Frontier: The Large Hadron Collider." This book is available for purchase from One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) as an Amazon partner at http://www.amazon.com/dp/0801891442?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you purchase this book through OGLF, part of your purchase goes to The Space Show/OGLF by Amazon so you help The Space Show with your purchase. During the first segment, our guest gave us the basics of his book as well as the LHC. We went over the ideas that some harbor and that are on the internet that the LHC would endanger the Earth. We talked about microscopic black holes, strangelets, vacuum bubbles and more. Don explained why there is no danger to the Earth referencing cosmic rays and the fact that only two proton beams are ever collided with one another. In response to one of my questions about how much power it took to run the LHC, Don said it was around 120mw which was enough to power the entire state of Geneva. He also said they buy their power off the grid which is the way the Fermi National Lab acquires its power. He then explained how an electric field was made and how the beam was accelerated. You don't want to miss this discussion. In the second segment, we talked about the expectations for discovery using the LHC. Don said the proper question to ask is "what are we looking for?" He said the LHC can generate seven times the energy of existing colliders so they hope to find out more about the nature and origin of mass of the universe. In addition, they hope to confirm or refute the existence of the Higgs boson particle which would then confirm or refute the Higgs field and this is important in understanding the mass of the universe. Don also told us that with the LHC they will be very close to recreating the circumstances that existed right after the Big Bang. We talked about how the LHC and the experiments and research were funded. In looking toward the future, he said that there were no current plans to build a larger accelerators but that there were very early discussions about the International Linear Collider which if built as discussed and planned would be an electron/antimatter-electron accelerator. During this segment, our guest also described what was meant by an energy regime, a term used frequently during our discussion. This segment ended with a more detailed discussion on how the proton beam was created and put into the accelerator, then accelerated to almost the speed of light. During the third segment, Don mentioned two current speaking engagements so if you are going to be in and around the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles Nov. 6-7 or the Adler Planetarium in Chicago on Nov. 19, go to his lecture and hear what he has to say. I certainly recommend listening to Don Lincoln in person if you have the opportunity to do so. For ticket information, please go to the respective websites for the organizations mentioned. We received a listener question asking about what U.S. science policy should be and this brought us to a discussion of funding science, basic research and the need to have curiosity based research funded. Another question asked Don to compare the quality of basic science to NASA science and human spaceflight science. Don explained there were no conflicts among these disciplines and talked about the need for proper science funding across the board. We talked about science funding at the LHC in light of the global economic problems and we were told about cutbacks and budget issues among the Europeans as well. At one point, he stressed the need that all science, including human spaceflight, had to have value and economics behind it. He said this was a valuable debate that was needed. Toward the end of this segment, he was asked about lecturing and tea</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Don Lincoln. Topics: Large Hadron Collider (LHC), particle physics, basic science and NASA research funding,. Don Lincoln was the guest for this Space Show program to talk about his new book, "The Quantum Frontier: The Large Hadron Collider." This book is available for purchase from One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) as an Amazon partner at http://www.amazon.com/dp/0801891442?tag=onegialeafou-20. Remember, if you purchase this book through OGLF, part of your purchase goes to The Space Show/OGLF by Amazon so you help The Space Show with your purchase. During the first segment, our guest gave us the basics of his book as well as the LHC. We went over the ideas that some harbor and that are on the internet that the LHC would endanger the Earth. We talked about microscopic black holes, strangelets, vacuum bubbles and more. Don explained why there is no danger to the Earth referencing cosmic rays and the fact that only two proton beams are ever collided with one another. In response to one of my questions about how much power it took to run the LHC, Don said it was around 120mw which was enough to power the entire state of Geneva. He also said they buy their power off the grid which is the way the Fermi National Lab acquires its power. He then explained how an electric field was made and how the beam was accelerated. You don't want to miss this discussion. In the second segment, we talked about the expectations for discovery using the LHC. Don said the proper question to ask is "what are we looking for?" He said the LHC can generate seven times the energy of existing colliders so they hope to find out more about the nature and origin of mass of the universe. In addition, they hope to confirm or refute the existence of the Higgs boson particle which would then confirm or refute the Higgs field and this is important in understanding the mass of the universe. Don also told us that with the LHC they will be very close to recreating the circumstances that existed right after the Big Bang. We talked about how the LHC and the experiments and research were funded. In looking toward the future, he said that there were no current plans to build a larger accelerators but that there were very early discussions about the International Linear Collider which if built as discussed and planned would be an electron/antimatter-electron accelerator. During this segment, our guest also described what was meant by an energy regime, a term used frequently during our discussion. This segment ended with a more detailed discussion on how the proton beam was created and put into the accelerator, then accelerated to almost the speed of light. During the third segment, Don mentioned two current speaking engagements so if you are going to be in and around the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles Nov. 6-7 or the Adler Planetarium in Chicago on Nov. 19, go to his lecture and hear what he has to say. I certainly recommend listening to Don Lincoln in person if you have the opportunity to do so. For ticket information, please go to the respective websites for the organizations mentioned. We received a listener question asking about what U.S. science policy should be and this brought us to a discussion of funding science, basic research and the need to have curiosity based research funded. Another question asked Don to compare the quality of basic science to NASA science and human spaceflight science. Don explained there were no conflicts among these disciplines and talked about the need for proper science funding across the board. We talked about science funding at the LHC in light of the global economic problems and we were told about cutbacks and budget issues among the Europeans as well. At one point, he stressed the need that all science, including human spaceflight, had to have value and economics behind it. He said this was a valuable debate that was needed. Toward the end of this segment, he was asked about lecturing and tea</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:38:13 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Walt Anderson, Sunday, 10-11-09</title>
      <link>http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25270286-Walt-Anderson-Sunday-10-11-09</link>
      <description>Guest: Walt Anderson. Topics: Augustine Commission, Walt's future plans, legal updates, Mir Space Station and MirCorp. Walt Anderson returned to The Space Show for a series of four fifteen minute telephone interviews from his federal correctional facility in New Jersey. These interviews took place on August 19 and October 2, 2009. During these telephone conversations, Walt updated us on his legal status and the dropping of most of the charges against him by the IRS. Walt received a copy of the Augustine Commission's Executive Summary so we talked about the recommendations and he extrapolated to what such a report might have been like had MirCorp been successful. He also went back through most of his Mir and MirCorp experiences, he summarized some of his commercial space investments that he had made commenting if he would repeat any of the investments today. He also reviewed his legal from start to where it is today. In the final telephone call, Walt talked about his future plans, wh...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Walt Anderson. Topics: Augustine Commission, Walt's future plans, legal updates, Mir Space Station and MirCorp. Walt Anderson returned to The Space Show for a series of four fifteen minute telephone interviews from his federal correctional facility in New Jersey. These interviews took place on August 19 and October 2, 2009. During these telephone conversations, Walt updated us on his legal status and the dropping of most of the charges against him by the IRS. Walt received a copy of the Augustine Commission's Executive Summary so we talked about the recommendations and he extrapolated to what such a report might have been like had MirCorp been successful. He also went back through most of his Mir and MirCorp experiences, he summarized some of his commercial space investments that he had made commenting if he would repeat any of the investments today. He also reviewed his legal from start to where it is today. In the final telephone call, Walt talked about his future plans, what he wants to do in the commercial space world, how he intends to do it, and some other ideas he has in mind upon his release. You can send books, magazines, or letters to Walt at this address: WALTER ANDERSON #27981016, FCI Fairton, Satellite Camp, P. O. Box 420, Fairton, NJ 08320. He can receive books or magazines but is allowed only five or fewer magazines per envelope per mailing. In addition, make sure that there are no promotional CDs or anything like any magazine or it will be returned to you as he is not allowed any type of multi media, even a promotional CD. Walt welcomes your letters as well. As he said near the end of the interview, he has lots of time on his hands. If you want to contact me regarding this interview, please use drspace@thespaceshow.com. Remember, you can quote or cite from this or any Space Show program but you must use an academic citation for the reference. If you do not know the correct format for an academic citation for an online radio show, email me and I will send you a sample citation. Quoting or otherwise referencing a Space Show without proper citation and credit is not allowed.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Walt Anderson. Topics: Augustine Commission, Walt's future plans, legal updates, Mir Space Station and MirCorp. Walt Anderson returned to The Space Show for a series of four fifteen minute telephone interviews from his federal correctional facility in New Jersey. These interviews took place on August 19 and October 2, 2009. During these telephone conversations, Walt updated us on his legal status and the dropping of most of the charges against him by the IRS. Walt received a copy of the Augustine Commission's Executive Summary so we talked about the recommendations and he extrapolated to what such a report might have been like had MirCorp been successful. He also went back through most of his Mir and MirCorp experiences, he summarized some of his commercial space investments that he had made commenting if he would repeat any of the investments today. He also reviewed his legal from start to where it is today. In the final telephone call, Walt talked about his future plans, what he wants to do in the commercial space world, how he intends to do it, and some other ideas he has in mind upon his release. You can send books, magazines, or letters to Walt at this address: WALTER ANDERSON #27981016, FCI Fairton, Satellite Camp, P. O. Box 420, Fairton, NJ 08320. He can receive books or magazines but is allowed only five or fewer magazines per envelope per mailing. In addition, make sure that there are no promotional CDs or anything like any magazine or it will be returned to you as he is not allowed any type of multi media, even a promotional CD. Walt welcomes your letters as well. As he said near the end of the interview, he has lots of time on his hands. If you want to contact me regarding this interview, please use drspace@thespaceshow.com. Remember, you can quote or cite from this or any Space Show program but you must use an academic citation for the reference. If you do not know the correct format for an academic citation for an online radio show, email me and I will send you a sample citation. Quoting or otherwise referencing a Space Show without proper citation and credit is not allowed.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:12:48 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>AIAA Augustine Commission Panel Discussion Held On Monday, 10/5/09</title>
      <link>http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25244674-AIAA-Augustine-Commission-Panel-Discussion-Held-On-Monday-10-5-09</link>
      <description>Guests: Bob Dickman, Elliot Pulham, Dr. Scott "Doc" Horowitz, Frank Culbertson, Jim Muncy, Dr. John Klineberg. Topics: This program provided a comprehensive discussion of the Augustine Commission options for our human spaceflight program. This special program was produced by AIAA with help from The Space Show. Our panel members were with us for two hours (no break) to engage in an in-depth discussion of the Augustine Commission's "Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans." Bob Dickman, Executive Director of AIAA started off with an opening statement on behalf of AIAA and then each of our five panel members made an initial opening statement pertaining to their perspective for the Augustine Commission report and issues facing our nation's human spaceflight program. After the panel member opening statements, as moderator, I led off with the first question that had to with making the case with the American public for human spaceflight with a compelling reason for the investment of public...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Bob Dickman, Elliot Pulham, Dr. Scott "Doc" Horowitz, Frank Culbertson, Jim Muncy, Dr. John Klineberg. Topics: This program provided a comprehensive discussion of the Augustine Commission options for our human spaceflight program. This special program was produced by AIAA with help from The Space Show. Our panel members were with us for two hours (no break) to engage in an in-depth discussion of the Augustine Commission's "Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans." Bob Dickman, Executive Director of AIAA started off with an opening statement on behalf of AIAA and then each of our five panel members made an initial opening statement pertaining to their perspective for the Augustine Commission report and issues facing our nation's human spaceflight program. After the panel member opening statements, as moderator, I led off with the first question that had to with making the case with the American public for human spaceflight with a compelling reason for the investment of public money for this program. After the panel addressed this issue for several minutes, I brought in questions from listeners across the country. During our two hour panel discussion, we covered the options put forth in the Augustine Commission Executive Summary, commercial space and what it is, COTS, heavy lift, on orbit construction, potential fuel depots, Mars and beyond missions, returning to the Moon, international support and consortiums for our civil program, leadership issues, congressional appropriations, ITAR, and more. Again, this was a very detailed and comprehensive discussion representing diverse views on how best to move forward with our human spaceflight program in the context of the Augustine Commission report. I strongly recommend this program as a MUST LISTEN TO SHOW! In addition, I want to thank AIAA, specifically Bob Dickman, Klaus Dannenberg, Duane Hyland, and Craig Day. I also want to thank both Janet Stevens of The Space Foundation, and Sharon Smith of Orbital who helped make this program possible. Without the help, labor, and support of all of these people and their organizations, this special AIAA/Space Show program would not have happened. Please note that Dr. Harrison Schmitt who was originally scheduled to be part of the panel had to cancel at the last minute. We were all most appreciative of Jim Muncy coming on board at the 11th hour to fill in for Dr. Schmitt. If you have questions or comments for our panel members, please address them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. I will send them to our contact for this panel at AIAA and we will do our best to get a response to you from the person you want to hear from.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Bob Dickman, Elliot Pulham, Dr. Scott "Doc" Horowitz, Frank Culbertson, Jim Muncy, Dr. John Klineberg. Topics: This program provided a comprehensive discussion of the Augustine Commission options for our human spaceflight program. This special program was produced by AIAA with help from The Space Show. Our panel members were with us for two hours (no break) to engage in an in-depth discussion of the Augustine Commission's "Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans." Bob Dickman, Executive Director of AIAA started off with an opening statement on behalf of AIAA and then each of our five panel members made an initial opening statement pertaining to their perspective for the Augustine Commission report and issues facing our nation's human spaceflight program. After the panel member opening statements, as moderator, I led off with the first question that had to with making the case with the American public for human spaceflight with a compelling reason for the investment of public money for this program. After the panel addressed this issue for several minutes, I brought in questions from listeners across the country. During our two hour panel discussion, we covered the options put forth in the Augustine Commission Executive Summary, commercial space and what it is, COTS, heavy lift, on orbit construction, potential fuel depots, Mars and beyond missions, returning to the Moon, international support and consortiums for our civil program, leadership issues, congressional appropriations, ITAR, and more. Again, this was a very detailed and comprehensive discussion representing diverse views on how best to move forward with our human spaceflight program in the context of the Augustine Commission report. I strongly recommend this program as a MUST LISTEN TO SHOW! In addition, I want to thank AIAA, specifically Bob Dickman, Klaus Dannenberg, Duane Hyland, and Craig Day. I also want to thank both Janet Stevens of The Space Foundation, and Sharon Smith of Orbital who helped make this program possible. Without the help, labor, and support of all of these people and their organizations, this special AIAA/Space Show program would not have happened. Please note that Dr. Harrison Schmitt who was originally scheduled to be part of the panel had to cancel at the last minute. We were all most appreciative of Jim Muncy coming on board at the 11th hour to fill in for Dr. Schmitt. If you have questions or comments for our panel members, please address them to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. I will send them to our contact for this panel at AIAA and we will do our best to get a response to you from the person you want to hear from.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Thomas Gangale, Monday, 10-5-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Thomas Gangale. Topics, property rights in space, lunar commerce, space law, treaties. Thomas Gangale was our guest for this show regarding his new book, "The Development of Outer Space: Sovereignty And Property Rights in International Space Law." This book will soon be available through the One Giant Leap Foundation website Amazon book partnership page. If you buy the book through the OGLF link, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation so we appreciate your purchasing Tom's book through this OGLF Amazon partnership. As soon as the specific OGLF URL is available, it will be added to this paragraph. In segment one, Tom told us that researching and writing this book represented a personal journey of exploration into international space law. As a result of his research, he came to change his mind about the Moon Treaty as Tom was a member of L5 and had actually worked to prevent acceptance of the Moon Treaty back in the day. Listen to him describe h...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Thomas Gangale. Topics, property rights in space, lunar commerce, space law, treaties. Thomas Gangale was our guest for this show regarding his new book, "The Development of Outer Space: Sovereignty And Property Rights in International Space Law." This book will soon be available through the One Giant Leap Foundation website Amazon book partnership page. If you buy the book through the OGLF link, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation so we appreciate your purchasing Tom's book through this OGLF Amazon partnership. As soon as the specific OGLF URL is available, it will be added to this paragraph. In segment one, Tom told us that researching and writing this book represented a personal journey of exploration into international space law. As a result of his research, he came to change his mind about the Moon Treaty as Tom was a member of L5 and had actually worked to prevent acceptance of the Moon Treaty back in the day. Listen to him describe his journey and process. We also spoke about the need to lower the costs for space access to facilitate commerce. We talked about using commercial rockets for Earth to LEO, freeing NASA to do deeper exploration from LEO and beyond. The issue of the Moon Treaty language came up, common heritage of mankind as well as benefit sharing. Tom explained the significance of this language, some listeners challenged him but in the end its an important discussion so don't miss it. In his book, its addressed in far more detail. In the second segment, Tom discussed natural law, common law, and customary law along with property rights as understood in the Outer Space Treaty (OST). He also put forth the argument for an international legal framework to support commercial space development. We talked about mini treaties and alternatives to treaties given how hard it is in today's world to get treaties accepted and ratified. During this segment, Tom received a listener question about his days with SDI. Don't miss what he had to say about that experience. Toward the end of this segment, a question came in about bioprospecting on Mars. This produced a most interesting discussion, don't miss it. In the third and final segment, we talked some more about the common heritage of mankind issue, capitalism as the dominant paradigm, and what needs to be in place to support a stable framework for commercial space development. The Augustine Commission was discussed relative to property rights and space policy. Natural law was brought up as was John Locke and the Lockean view with regards to property rights. Toward the end of the program, I asked Tom if he had an Action Plan or time line for establishing the type of framework needed to support space commercialism. He said first that the government needed to blaze the frontier development and NASA needed to get out of Earth to LEO transportation. We must drive down the cost, we likely needed new propulsion and even structural air frames and more. Tom suggested we are treading water right now. Another thing he called for was for the cessation of bashing NASA and to always include a positive with the criticism. Prior to the end of the show, Tom took us through some 1950's space history and went through the facts showing us that the US did not rush to ratify the OST! If you have a question or comment for Thomas Gangale, you can email him at teg@ops-alaska.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Thomas Gangale. Topics, property rights in space, lunar commerce, space law, treaties. Thomas Gangale was our guest for this show regarding his new book, "The Development of Outer Space: Sovereignty And Property Rights in International Space Law." This book will soon be available through the One Giant Leap Foundation website Amazon book partnership page. If you buy the book through the OGLF link, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation so we appreciate your purchasing Tom's book through this OGLF Amazon partnership. As soon as the specific OGLF URL is available, it will be added to this paragraph. In segment one, Tom told us that researching and writing this book represented a personal journey of exploration into international space law. As a result of his research, he came to change his mind about the Moon Treaty as Tom was a member of L5 and had actually worked to prevent acceptance of the Moon Treaty back in the day. Listen to him describe his journey and process. We also spoke about the need to lower the costs for space access to facilitate commerce. We talked about using commercial rockets for Earth to LEO, freeing NASA to do deeper exploration from LEO and beyond. The issue of the Moon Treaty language came up, common heritage of mankind as well as benefit sharing. Tom explained the significance of this language, some listeners challenged him but in the end its an important discussion so don't miss it. In his book, its addressed in far more detail. In the second segment, Tom discussed natural law, common law, and customary law along with property rights as understood in the Outer Space Treaty (OST). He also put forth the argument for an international legal framework to support commercial space development. We talked about mini treaties and alternatives to treaties given how hard it is in today's world to get treaties accepted and ratified. During this segment, Tom received a listener question about his days with SDI. Don't miss what he had to say about that experience. Toward the end of this segment, a question came in about bioprospecting on Mars. This produced a most interesting discussion, don't miss it. In the third and final segment, we talked some more about the common heritage of mankind issue, capitalism as the dominant paradigm, and what needs to be in place to support a stable framework for commercial space development. The Augustine Commission was discussed relative to property rights and space policy. Natural law was brought up as was John Locke and the Lockean view with regards to property rights. Toward the end of the program, I asked Tom if he had an Action Plan or time line for establishing the type of framework needed to support space commercialism. He said first that the government needed to blaze the frontier development and NASA needed to get out of Earth to LEO transportation. We must drive down the cost, we likely needed new propulsion and even structural air frames and more. Tom suggested we are treading water right now. Another thing he called for was for the cessation of bashing NASA and to always include a positive with the criticism. Prior to the end of the show, Tom took us through some 1950's space history and went through the facts showing us that the US did not rush to ratify the OST! If you have a question or comment for Thomas Gangale, you can email him at teg@ops-alaska.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Rick Tumlinson, Sunday, 10-4-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Rick Tumlinson. Topics: Space frontier development, private/public partnerships, Augustine Commission. Rick Tumlinson returned for this special two hour Space Show program. Each segment was one hour but an overriding theme went through the entire show. This theme was the need to develop the space frontier and that the private sector could do it, that the government civil space program should address space exploration from LEO and beyond, but Earth to Leo should be turned over to the private sector companies. As Rick said, NASA should buy the ride, not the rocket. We started the show in segment one with a discussion of Rick's family background in co-founding the Texas Rangers and in fighting for freedom at the Alamo. We then extrapolated this thirst for freedom to the freedom needed to develop the space frontier. Rick talked about his early days of getting started in space advocacy, the Benevolent Conspiracy, and then we addressed the importance of X-Prize and the five year an...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Rick Tumlinson. Topics: Space frontier development, private/public partnerships, Augustine Commission. Rick Tumlinson returned for this special two hour Space Show program. Each segment was one hour but an overriding theme went through the entire show. This theme was the need to develop the space frontier and that the private sector could do it, that the government civil space program should address space exploration from LEO and beyond, but Earth to Leo should be turned over to the private sector companies. As Rick said, NASA should buy the ride, not the rocket. We started the show in segment one with a discussion of Rick's family background in co-founding the Texas Rangers and in fighting for freedom at the Alamo. We then extrapolated this thirst for freedom to the freedom needed to develop the space frontier. Rick talked about his early days of getting started in space advocacy, the Benevolent Conspiracy, and then we addressed the importance of X-Prize and the five year anniversary of SS1 winning with its flights over Mojave. Rick told us some stories from those early days, from the X-Prize challenge and more. Don't miss it. Another issue that came up during this segment dealt with the use of the term space tourist. Adventure traveler or some other term seemed a better fit for riding on a rocket and doing something as trail blazing as these early space adventurers. Listener Richard Godwin called in to talk about SpaceX and the Dragon capsule and NASA's future challenge, COTS and more. Toward the end of this listener call, the subject of fusion reactors aboard Navy ships came up as evidence of changing and improving technology. Marshall asked a question about lunar water and a possible X-Prize for processing a gallon of lunar water. Rick addressed the issue of prizes by saying they were important but that the winning of the prize had to be followed up by the existence of long term commercial demand. Toward the end of the first segment, the subject of range fees came up during our discussion of the Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport in Virginia. As we started segment two, a question was asked rick about the Chinese space program and including China in the ISS partnership. Don't miss what Rick had to say about this. We then talked about the Augustine Commission and Rick said it was a fork in the road regarding the government space program. He was very critical of Ares 1 and the money spent plus spending additional money on anything to do with Ares 1 or that program. In the context of the Augustine report, Rick again talked about the need to open the frontier and how Augustine was pointing the direction toward that goal. He said the big losers were those supporting the NASA status quo. He also suggested that this would be a test of the new NASA Administrator. For his concluding comments, Rick reiterated the need to industrialize orbital infrastructure. Don't miss his concluding words. If you want to email a question or comment to Rick Tumlinson, please do so using RickTumlinson@gmail.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Rick Tumlinson. Topics: Space frontier development, private/public partnerships, Augustine Commission. Rick Tumlinson returned for this special two hour Space Show program. Each segment was one hour but an overriding theme went through the entire show. This theme was the need to develop the space frontier and that the private sector could do it, that the government civil space program should address space exploration from LEO and beyond, but Earth to Leo should be turned over to the private sector companies. As Rick said, NASA should buy the ride, not the rocket. We started the show in segment one with a discussion of Rick's family background in co-founding the Texas Rangers and in fighting for freedom at the Alamo. We then extrapolated this thirst for freedom to the freedom needed to develop the space frontier. Rick talked about his early days of getting started in space advocacy, the Benevolent Conspiracy, and then we addressed the importance of X-Prize and the five year anniversary of SS1 winning with its flights over Mojave. Rick told us some stories from those early days, from the X-Prize challenge and more. Don't miss it. Another issue that came up during this segment dealt with the use of the term space tourist. Adventure traveler or some other term seemed a better fit for riding on a rocket and doing something as trail blazing as these early space adventurers. Listener Richard Godwin called in to talk about SpaceX and the Dragon capsule and NASA's future challenge, COTS and more. Toward the end of this listener call, the subject of fusion reactors aboard Navy ships came up as evidence of changing and improving technology. Marshall asked a question about lunar water and a possible X-Prize for processing a gallon of lunar water. Rick addressed the issue of prizes by saying they were important but that the winning of the prize had to be followed up by the existence of long term commercial demand. Toward the end of the first segment, the subject of range fees came up during our discussion of the Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport in Virginia. As we started segment two, a question was asked rick about the Chinese space program and including China in the ISS partnership. Don't miss what Rick had to say about this. We then talked about the Augustine Commission and Rick said it was a fork in the road regarding the government space program. He was very critical of Ares 1 and the money spent plus spending additional money on anything to do with Ares 1 or that program. In the context of the Augustine report, Rick again talked about the need to open the frontier and how Augustine was pointing the direction toward that goal. He said the big losers were those supporting the NASA status quo. He also suggested that this would be a test of the new NASA Administrator. For his concluding comments, Rick reiterated the need to industrialize orbital infrastructure. Don't miss his concluding words. If you want to email a question or comment to Rick Tumlinson, please do so using RickTumlinson@gmail.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:44:09 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Friday, 10-2-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Dr. Erik Seedhouse. Topics: risk aversion, lunar development, leadership, space with a vision, bio ethical issues. Dr. Erik Seedhouse was our guest today to discuss his book, "Lunar Outpost: The Challenges of Establishing a Human Settlement on the Moon." As we started the program, we asked Dr. Seedhouse about Air Force Captain Joe Kittinger's parachute jump from the edge of space given that Dr. Seedhouse was with the legendary 2nd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, the world's most elite airborne regiment. Erik explained the major risks and problems in jumping when there is no atmosphere to push off of and use to control your jump. He discussed the problem of the flat spin and why it?s fatal, the differences with HALO jumpers, and the use of a drogue chute. He predicted that Captain Kittinger's record would be broken next year, so don't miss this discussion. After talking about skydiving from the edge of space, we turned our attention to lunar outposts and development. One th...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Dr. Erik Seedhouse. Topics: risk aversion, lunar development, leadership, space with a vision, bio ethical issues. Dr. Erik Seedhouse was our guest today to discuss his book, "Lunar Outpost: The Challenges of Establishing a Human Settlement on the Moon." As we started the program, we asked Dr. Seedhouse about Air Force Captain Joe Kittinger's parachute jump from the edge of space given that Dr. Seedhouse was with the legendary 2nd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, the world's most elite airborne regiment. Erik explained the major risks and problems in jumping when there is no atmosphere to push off of and use to control your jump. He discussed the problem of the flat spin and why it?s fatal, the differences with HALO jumpers, and the use of a drogue chute. He predicted that Captain Kittinger's record would be broken next year, so don't miss this discussion. After talking about skydiving from the edge of space, we turned our attention to lunar outposts and development. One thing Dr. Seedhouse mentioned that would be helpful was more international collaboration on the part of NASA, specifically he referenced the ESA Aurora Program as a possibility for collaboration. We talked about the Ares-1 rocket and the thrust oscillation problem and then turned our attention to safety and the NASA safety record. Here Dr. Seedhouse had some very interesting observations so don't miss this discussion. We started the second segment with a continuation of the safety subject and then the need for education about space, science, and engineering. We talked about some of the major issues to be resolved for having a lunar outpost including lunar radiation and lunar dust. He received a question about lunar lava tubes for an outpost. You will certainly want to hear what he had to say about the lava tubes. We talked about inspiration, heroes, raising the human spirit and what he said was the core value of NASA, exploration. Ticker tape parades were mentioned as one of the ways we used to honor and reward our risk-taking pioneer astronauts. The subject of water on the Moon came up and he thought it might be overblown in terms of being a driving force for settlement at this time. In needing one ton of regolith to extract about two pints of water, much has to be done to improve the extraction process or find more water for it to be useful for a settlement. We also talked about astronaut training in a commercial environment versus what NASA does. Don't miss this discussion. The Chinese space program was brought up via listener questions and Dr. Seedhouse had much to say about China, potential ISS participation, and a future space race with the U.S. Another listener brought up the Augustine Commission report and Dr. Seedhouse suggested we might be back to the Moon around 2023 rather than 2020. Toward the end of this segment, we spoke about different types of propulsion including the nuclear rocket and plasma propulsion, specifically VASIMR. In our human factors discussion, medical standards for commercial astronauts were compared to NASA astronauts and we talked about many of the important bio ethical issues. Erik also brought up the idea of pre-emptive surgery for long duration space flight. As we moved into the third segment, Erik spent more time with us on the bio ethical issues such as what to do with a dead body, life support for a terminally ill crew member, should there be a straight jacket on board, should crew members under go pre-emptive surgery for gall bladders and the appendix, should their be genetic screening, and more. He said issues like this for long duration spaceflight were only now starting to be discussed. In the fourth segment, we spent some additional time discussing both physical and mental issues. Dr. Seedhouse told us about some of other space books and the two new space books about to be on the market. The balance of this segment was spent talking about the analog model for long duration, v</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Dr. Erik Seedhouse. Topics: risk aversion, lunar development, leadership, space with a vision, bio ethical issues. Dr. Erik Seedhouse was our guest today to discuss his book, "Lunar Outpost: The Challenges of Establishing a Human Settlement on the Moon." As we started the program, we asked Dr. Seedhouse about Air Force Captain Joe Kittinger's parachute jump from the edge of space given that Dr. Seedhouse was with the legendary 2nd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, the world's most elite airborne regiment. Erik explained the major risks and problems in jumping when there is no atmosphere to push off of and use to control your jump. He discussed the problem of the flat spin and why it?s fatal, the differences with HALO jumpers, and the use of a drogue chute. He predicted that Captain Kittinger's record would be broken next year, so don't miss this discussion. After talking about skydiving from the edge of space, we turned our attention to lunar outposts and development. One thing Dr. Seedhouse mentioned that would be helpful was more international collaboration on the part of NASA, specifically he referenced the ESA Aurora Program as a possibility for collaboration. We talked about the Ares-1 rocket and the thrust oscillation problem and then turned our attention to safety and the NASA safety record. Here Dr. Seedhouse had some very interesting observations so don't miss this discussion. We started the second segment with a continuation of the safety subject and then the need for education about space, science, and engineering. We talked about some of the major issues to be resolved for having a lunar outpost including lunar radiation and lunar dust. He received a question about lunar lava tubes for an outpost. You will certainly want to hear what he had to say about the lava tubes. We talked about inspiration, heroes, raising the human spirit and what he said was the core value of NASA, exploration. Ticker tape parades were mentioned as one of the ways we used to honor and reward our risk-taking pioneer astronauts. The subject of water on the Moon came up and he thought it might be overblown in terms of being a driving force for settlement at this time. In needing one ton of regolith to extract about two pints of water, much has to be done to improve the extraction process or find more water for it to be useful for a settlement. We also talked about astronaut training in a commercial environment versus what NASA does. Don't miss this discussion. The Chinese space program was brought up via listener questions and Dr. Seedhouse had much to say about China, potential ISS participation, and a future space race with the U.S. Another listener brought up the Augustine Commission report and Dr. Seedhouse suggested we might be back to the Moon around 2023 rather than 2020. Toward the end of this segment, we spoke about different types of propulsion including the nuclear rocket and plasma propulsion, specifically VASIMR. In our human factors discussion, medical standards for commercial astronauts were compared to NASA astronauts and we talked about many of the important bio ethical issues. Erik also brought up the idea of pre-emptive surgery for long duration space flight. As we moved into the third segment, Erik spent more time with us on the bio ethical issues such as what to do with a dead body, life support for a terminally ill crew member, should there be a straight jacket on board, should crew members under go pre-emptive surgery for gall bladders and the appendix, should their be genetic screening, and more. He said issues like this for long duration spaceflight were only now starting to be discussed. In the fourth segment, we spent some additional time discussing both physical and mental issues. Dr. Seedhouse told us about some of other space books and the two new space books about to be on the market. The balance of this segment was spent talking about the analog model for long duration, v</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Brent Sherwood &amp; Dr. Scott Howe, Tuesday, 9-29-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: Brent Sherwood; Dr. A Scott Howe. Topics: Space architecture, space development, life support systems, human spaceflight missions. Brent Sherwood and Dr. A. Scott Howe were with us to discuss their new AIAA published book, "Out Of This World: The New Field Of Space Architecture." During the first segment, space architecture was defined. This is important so make sure you hear it as it is applicable to our discussion of the subject. We talked about some of the issues that differentiate space architecture from its terrestrial counterpart. Among the many issues are the lack of gravity and even freefall of an object depending on where in space the object is located. Pressure, vacuum, radiation, and temperature cycling are important factors to consider and plan for as well. Later in this segment, the lunar dust environment was brought to our attention. Listeners asked about comments suggesting we were ready to go to Mars now with humans and that there were no technological or eng...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Brent Sherwood; Dr. A Scott Howe. Topics: Space architecture, space development, life support systems, human spaceflight missions. Brent Sherwood and Dr. A. Scott Howe were with us to discuss their new AIAA published book, "Out Of This World: The New Field Of Space Architecture." During the first segment, space architecture was defined. This is important so make sure you hear it as it is applicable to our discussion of the subject. We talked about some of the issues that differentiate space architecture from its terrestrial counterpart. Among the many issues are the lack of gravity and even freefall of an object depending on where in space the object is located. Pressure, vacuum, radiation, and temperature cycling are important factors to consider and plan for as well. Later in this segment, the lunar dust environment was brought to our attention. Listeners asked about comments suggesting we were ready to go to Mars now with humans and that there were no technological or engineering show stoppers. Don't miss the response offered up by Brent and Scott. Another listener asked about the differences that would exist in the ISS versus a Mars Station. You will want to hear this! Toward the end of this segment, the subject of artificial gravity came up and we were pointed to Chapters 12 and 13 of the book which factually address this subject. In the second segment, which was extended to the end of the program, we led off with listener questions and then our guests made the point with us that knowing and understanding space architecture facilitated working in other space fields. The question came up as to how can we afford to be in space and build and do the things we were talking about on the show and that are discussed in the book. While there are chapters in the book that address this concern, Brent suggested the better question would have been how do we take the next step forward in space development given certain conditions we have to deal with rather than how can we afford any of it. Don't miss what our guests had to say in responding to this question. Studying space architecture was addressed and we learned about the SICSA program at the University of Houston School of Architecture ( http://www.sicsa.uh.edu ). The subject of remote control demo bases for the Moon came up and we were told about the Integrated Systems Health Management program that does work to develop habitat demos. We then discussed Antarctica analog sites and the degree to which the human interface with robotic structures is progressing. Toward the end of the program, Brent and Scott talked about the target audiences for their book which include their peers, aerospace engineers and designers, students, and the general public. There are 30 chapters with 36 professional contributors. At the end of the program, we discussed closed loop systems for space, advanced life support and overall life support closure. Please visit their website, http://www.spacearchitect.org/ . If you have a follow up question or comment for Brent Sherwood or Dr. Scott Howe, please click on Members on their website and scroll down to the information about either Dr. Howe or Brent. As always, you can send your questions and comments through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com . Please note that their book will soon be listed on the One Giant Leap Foundation Amazon Partners book page. Please check http://www.amazon.com/dp/1563479826?tag=onegialeafou-20. When purchasing it, if you do so through OGLF, you help The Space Show.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Brent Sherwood; Dr. A Scott Howe. Topics: Space architecture, space development, life support systems, human spaceflight missions. Brent Sherwood and Dr. A. Scott Howe were with us to discuss their new AIAA published book, "Out Of This World: The New Field Of Space Architecture." During the first segment, space architecture was defined. This is important so make sure you hear it as it is applicable to our discussion of the subject. We talked about some of the issues that differentiate space architecture from its terrestrial counterpart. Among the many issues are the lack of gravity and even freefall of an object depending on where in space the object is located. Pressure, vacuum, radiation, and temperature cycling are important factors to consider and plan for as well. Later in this segment, the lunar dust environment was brought to our attention. Listeners asked about comments suggesting we were ready to go to Mars now with humans and that there were no technological or engineering show stoppers. Don't miss the response offered up by Brent and Scott. Another listener asked about the differences that would exist in the ISS versus a Mars Station. You will want to hear this! Toward the end of this segment, the subject of artificial gravity came up and we were pointed to Chapters 12 and 13 of the book which factually address this subject. In the second segment, which was extended to the end of the program, we led off with listener questions and then our guests made the point with us that knowing and understanding space architecture facilitated working in other space fields. The question came up as to how can we afford to be in space and build and do the things we were talking about on the show and that are discussed in the book. While there are chapters in the book that address this concern, Brent suggested the better question would have been how do we take the next step forward in space development given certain conditions we have to deal with rather than how can we afford any of it. Don't miss what our guests had to say in responding to this question. Studying space architecture was addressed and we learned about the SICSA program at the University of Houston School of Architecture ( http://www.sicsa.uh.edu ). The subject of remote control demo bases for the Moon came up and we were told about the Integrated Systems Health Management program that does work to develop habitat demos. We then discussed Antarctica analog sites and the degree to which the human interface with robotic structures is progressing. Toward the end of the program, Brent and Scott talked about the target audiences for their book which include their peers, aerospace engineers and designers, students, and the general public. There are 30 chapters with 36 professional contributors. At the end of the program, we discussed closed loop systems for space, advanced life support and overall life support closure. Please visit their website, http://www.spacearchitect.org/ . If you have a follow up question or comment for Brent Sherwood or Dr. Scott Howe, please click on Members on their website and scroll down to the information about either Dr. Howe or Brent. As always, you can send your questions and comments through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com . Please note that their book will soon be listed on the One Giant Leap Foundation Amazon Partners book page. Please check http://www.amazon.com/dp/1563479826?tag=onegialeafou-20. When purchasing it, if you do so through OGLF, you help The Space Show.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:48:30 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Robert Zimmerman, Monday, 9-28-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Robert Zimmerman. Topics: Lunar water, Augustine Commission, space policy, climate change and sunspots. Robert Zimmerman returned to The Space Show as our guest for this program. We started the first segment with questions for Robert regarding the recently announced lunar water, Indian Space Agency (ISRO) and MIP reports of lunar water, the IndiaDaily.com article and how all this might impact U.S. space policy in light of the Augustine Commission report. Bob discussed in detail the lunar water announcements, the Indian contribution, and let us know what he thought the impact of all of this might be in light of Augustine, our economic situation, and the Administration in developing our new space policy. Listen to his analysis and conclusions and see what you think. His bottom line was that the lunar water announcement will turn out to be irrelevant regarding Augustine and the Administration. At the end of this segment, he introduced us to the key concept of Augustine and what ...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Robert Zimmerman. Topics: Lunar water, Augustine Commission, space policy, climate change and sunspots. Robert Zimmerman returned to The Space Show as our guest for this program. We started the first segment with questions for Robert regarding the recently announced lunar water, Indian Space Agency (ISRO) and MIP reports of lunar water, the IndiaDaily.com article and how all this might impact U.S. space policy in light of the Augustine Commission report. Bob discussed in detail the lunar water announcements, the Indian contribution, and let us know what he thought the impact of all of this might be in light of Augustine, our economic situation, and the Administration in developing our new space policy. Listen to his analysis and conclusions and see what you think. His bottom line was that the lunar water announcement will turn out to be irrelevant regarding Augustine and the Administration. At the end of this segment, he introduced us to the key concept of Augustine and what appears to be an unfolding Administration interest and that is more focus and possible support for developing commercial space. In the second segment, we led off with two questions from Jack, the first being about the Chinese possibly joining in on the ISS and if NASA and U.S. Policy would encourage that development. Bob said China was not interested in this and wants its own independent space program. You don't want to miss his comments on the Chinese becoming part of the ISS partnership. Jack's second question focused on climate computer models and if such models incorporated sunspot activity in their analysis. This started a lengthy discussion on climate change that went through the entire rest of the program. In discussing climate change, we also introduced the National Review article about the very important climate temperature data having been lost and what this means for policy and legislation, plus toward the end of the program Bob told us about skewed tree ring data. You do not want to miss Bob's climate comments as he is a prolific writer on the subject and knows the science and policy from all sides. During the second segment, we returned to space topics and Bob updated us on what was happening with LCROSS and what it hoped to discover and more. Bob also talked about the upcoming initial launch of Falcon 9 and more. Toward the end of this segment, I asked Bob about our progress in the five years since Space Ship One had won the X-Prize. He said that we were still in a holding pattern. As we started the third segment, we asked Bob about Ares-1 if the press on it was bad or if the rocket in his opinion was awful. He pointed out the problems in developing any new rocket and thought that Ares-1 issues were overblown by the media. We discussed the economics of Constellation and referenced the recent GAO report on Ares-1 and its costs. This report is available on the internet and I urge listeners to download and read it if you have not already done so. You can find this report at http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09844.pdf . During this segment, Bob also talked about the need for competition with rockets and put forth many advantages resulting from increased competition. A listener asked him about NASA prizes and Bob said they were a good idea and effective. Toward the end of the program, he was asked about heavy lift and took the position that it probably was not necessary given on-orbit construction possibilities. We talked about a panel discussion for The Space Show regarding heavy lift and that is being considered. At the very end of the show, Bob spoke about the need for freedom and choice in space and across the board in relationship to government policy and control. If you have questions or comments for Bob Zimmerman, you can find his email address through his website, http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3cxxp/zimbib.htm or you can forward it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com .</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Robert Zimmerman. Topics: Lunar water, Augustine Commission, space policy, climate change and sunspots. Robert Zimmerman returned to The Space Show as our guest for this program. We started the first segment with questions for Robert regarding the recently announced lunar water, Indian Space Agency (ISRO) and MIP reports of lunar water, the IndiaDaily.com article and how all this might impact U.S. space policy in light of the Augustine Commission report. Bob discussed in detail the lunar water announcements, the Indian contribution, and let us know what he thought the impact of all of this might be in light of Augustine, our economic situation, and the Administration in developing our new space policy. Listen to his analysis and conclusions and see what you think. His bottom line was that the lunar water announcement will turn out to be irrelevant regarding Augustine and the Administration. At the end of this segment, he introduced us to the key concept of Augustine and what appears to be an unfolding Administration interest and that is more focus and possible support for developing commercial space. In the second segment, we led off with two questions from Jack, the first being about the Chinese possibly joining in on the ISS and if NASA and U.S. Policy would encourage that development. Bob said China was not interested in this and wants its own independent space program. You don't want to miss his comments on the Chinese becoming part of the ISS partnership. Jack's second question focused on climate computer models and if such models incorporated sunspot activity in their analysis. This started a lengthy discussion on climate change that went through the entire rest of the program. In discussing climate change, we also introduced the National Review article about the very important climate temperature data having been lost and what this means for policy and legislation, plus toward the end of the program Bob told us about skewed tree ring data. You do not want to miss Bob's climate comments as he is a prolific writer on the subject and knows the science and policy from all sides. During the second segment, we returned to space topics and Bob updated us on what was happening with LCROSS and what it hoped to discover and more. Bob also talked about the upcoming initial launch of Falcon 9 and more. Toward the end of this segment, I asked Bob about our progress in the five years since Space Ship One had won the X-Prize. He said that we were still in a holding pattern. As we started the third segment, we asked Bob about Ares-1 if the press on it was bad or if the rocket in his opinion was awful. He pointed out the problems in developing any new rocket and thought that Ares-1 issues were overblown by the media. We discussed the economics of Constellation and referenced the recent GAO report on Ares-1 and its costs. This report is available on the internet and I urge listeners to download and read it if you have not already done so. You can find this report at http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09844.pdf . During this segment, Bob also talked about the need for competition with rockets and put forth many advantages resulting from increased competition. A listener asked him about NASA prizes and Bob said they were a good idea and effective. Toward the end of the program, he was asked about heavy lift and took the position that it probably was not necessary given on-orbit construction possibilities. We talked about a panel discussion for The Space Show regarding heavy lift and that is being considered. At the very end of the show, Bob spoke about the need for freedom and choice in space and across the board in relationship to government policy and control. If you have questions or comments for Bob Zimmerman, you can find his email address through his website, http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3cxxp/zimbib.htm or you can forward it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com .</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:52:58 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Conrad Spirit of Innovation Awards, Sunday, 9-27-09</title>
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      <description>Guests: Josh Neubert, Aaron Rusheen, Daniel Asturias. Topics: Spirit of Innovation Awards Program, Conrad Foundation, how to get an outstanding high school education. Today's Space Show program featured The Conrad Foundation and their Spirit of Innovation Awards ( http://www.conradawards.org ) for this year. Two first place winners were our guests, Aaron Rusheen who created the Final Frontier Apparel Company and Daniel Asturias who created the MotGen System. Also with us was the Conrad Foundation Executive Director, Josh Neubert. In the first segment, Josh introduced us to the Conrad Foundation and the Spirit of Innovation Awards, then provided us with a brief introduction to our student guests. Listen to what Josh had to say about this fantastic awards program because it clearly works and after you hear the two students, you will know why I say that. One listener asked if the Conrad Foundation was working with NASA in these awards and as you will hear, they have signed a Space Act ...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guests: Josh Neubert, Aaron Rusheen, Daniel Asturias. Topics: Spirit of Innovation Awards Program, Conrad Foundation, how to get an outstanding high school education. Today's Space Show program featured The Conrad Foundation and their Spirit of Innovation Awards ( http://www.conradawards.org ) for this year. Two first place winners were our guests, Aaron Rusheen who created the Final Frontier Apparel Company and Daniel Asturias who created the MotGen System. Also with us was the Conrad Foundation Executive Director, Josh Neubert. In the first segment, Josh introduced us to the Conrad Foundation and the Spirit of Innovation Awards, then provided us with a brief introduction to our student guests. Listen to what Josh had to say about this fantastic awards program because it clearly works and after you hear the two students, you will know why I say that. One listener asked if the Conrad Foundation was working with NASA in these awards and as you will hear, they have signed a Space Act Agreement with NASA and the organizations do work together. We also learned that 170 student teams competed for the awards! By visiting the above website and clicking on the Competition button at the top, you can see the student projects discussed on the show and learn about the different categories for the awards. Later in this segment, Aaron Rusheen began telling us about his mechanical counter-pressure space suit and the company formed for this project, Final Frontier Apparel. Listen to what Aaron had to say about the suit, his team, and the competition, as well as the engineering and design aspects of the counter-pressure suit. In the second segment which lasted until the end of the show, listeners asked Aaron some questions about his space suit design as well as the electro-muscular stimulation built into the suit to help prevent muscle degeneration. Aaron suggested that the value in this type of stimulation would be in saving money by not having to take heavy exercise equipment to orbit, plus it would save hours of time for the astronauts as they would not need to work out as much. During this segment, we had a surprise listener phone call from Nancy Conrad along with Rusty Schweickart. Do not miss our conversation with Nancy and Rusty about education, awards, rewards, and much, much more! We began our discussion with Daniel Asturias in this segment regarding his first place win in the renewable energy category with his team's MotGen system, a motionless hydrothermal vent generator. Daniel does an excellent job in describing this device to us, how it would be placed about 2 km under the ocean and how it would work virtually maintenance free since it?s made of very few parts. Daniel received some technical questions, including one about the precipitation of dissolved minerals. I believe you will be as impressed by the answer and knowledge of this student as was everyone else which is why his team won first place in this award category. Our discussion with Rusty, Nancy, and our two students led to a discussion of what makes these students special and how they were received by their peers. I believe this is an important discussion and listening to the perspective officered on STEM education issues for high school students from both Daniel and Aaron. I recommend you listen to this discussion. Notice how both students from different states, one from a public high school and one from a private high school focused in on the parental and family environment for pushing and leading students. Toward the end of the show, Josh talked about the next iteration of the Spirit of Innovation Awards and pointed out two key approaching dates for student entries. If you are interested, or if you know students who might be interested, direct them to the Conrad Awards website. If you have questions or comments for Josh Neubert about the Conrad Foundation, you can contact him through the website at www.conradawards.org/index.php?option=com</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: Josh Neubert, Aaron Rusheen, Daniel Asturias. Topics: Spirit of Innovation Awards Program, Conrad Foundation, how to get an outstanding high school education. Today's Space Show program featured The Conrad Foundation and their Spirit of Innovation Awards ( http://www.conradawards.org ) for this year. Two first place winners were our guests, Aaron Rusheen who created the Final Frontier Apparel Company and Daniel Asturias who created the MotGen System. Also with us was the Conrad Foundation Executive Director, Josh Neubert. In the first segment, Josh introduced us to the Conrad Foundation and the Spirit of Innovation Awards, then provided us with a brief introduction to our student guests. Listen to what Josh had to say about this fantastic awards program because it clearly works and after you hear the two students, you will know why I say that. One listener asked if the Conrad Foundation was working with NASA in these awards and as you will hear, they have signed a Space Act Agreement with NASA and the organizations do work together. We also learned that 170 student teams competed for the awards! By visiting the above website and clicking on the Competition button at the top, you can see the student projects discussed on the show and learn about the different categories for the awards. Later in this segment, Aaron Rusheen began telling us about his mechanical counter-pressure space suit and the company formed for this project, Final Frontier Apparel. Listen to what Aaron had to say about the suit, his team, and the competition, as well as the engineering and design aspects of the counter-pressure suit. In the second segment which lasted until the end of the show, listeners asked Aaron some questions about his space suit design as well as the electro-muscular stimulation built into the suit to help prevent muscle degeneration. Aaron suggested that the value in this type of stimulation would be in saving money by not having to take heavy exercise equipment to orbit, plus it would save hours of time for the astronauts as they would not need to work out as much. During this segment, we had a surprise listener phone call from Nancy Conrad along with Rusty Schweickart. Do not miss our conversation with Nancy and Rusty about education, awards, rewards, and much, much more! We began our discussion with Daniel Asturias in this segment regarding his first place win in the renewable energy category with his team's MotGen system, a motionless hydrothermal vent generator. Daniel does an excellent job in describing this device to us, how it would be placed about 2 km under the ocean and how it would work virtually maintenance free since it?s made of very few parts. Daniel received some technical questions, including one about the precipitation of dissolved minerals. I believe you will be as impressed by the answer and knowledge of this student as was everyone else which is why his team won first place in this award category. Our discussion with Rusty, Nancy, and our two students led to a discussion of what makes these students special and how they were received by their peers. I believe this is an important discussion and listening to the perspective officered on STEM education issues for high school students from both Daniel and Aaron. I recommend you listen to this discussion. Notice how both students from different states, one from a public high school and one from a private high school focused in on the parental and family environment for pushing and leading students. Toward the end of the show, Josh talked about the next iteration of the Spirit of Innovation Awards and pointed out two key approaching dates for student entries. If you are interested, or if you know students who might be interested, direct them to the Conrad Awards website. If you have questions or comments for Josh Neubert about the Conrad Foundation, you can contact him through the website at www.conradawards.org/index.php?option=com</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:12:31 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Lynn Baroff, Friday, 9-25-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Lynn Baroff. Topics: Space education in public school, human-robotic systems integration, Mars, space policy. Lynn Baroff was the guest for this Space Show program. We started Segment one with a discussion of the upcoming NASA Lunar Lander Challenge to be held this year at NASA Ames the weekend of October 17-18. The public is welcome. Mr. Baroff is the leading judge for the event and my having been to the event last year, I know that this year's program will be even better. Mr. Baroff said there were 21 contestants this year, he described the rules of the Challenge and we also talked about the simulated regolith material. Several questions came in about the recent NASA announcement of lunar water and if this development would impact or add to the importance of this year's contest. This led us to a discussion about the lunar water announcement, the Augustine Commission, the U.S. Congress, and our plans to return to the Moon. Do not miss this discussion. During this first segme...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Lynn Baroff. Topics: Space education in public school, human-robotic systems integration, Mars, space policy. Lynn Baroff was the guest for this Space Show program. We started Segment one with a discussion of the upcoming NASA Lunar Lander Challenge to be held this year at NASA Ames the weekend of October 17-18. The public is welcome. Mr. Baroff is the leading judge for the event and my having been to the event last year, I know that this year's program will be even better. Mr. Baroff said there were 21 contestants this year, he described the rules of the Challenge and we also talked about the simulated regolith material. Several questions came in about the recent NASA announcement of lunar water and if this development would impact or add to the importance of this year's contest. This led us to a discussion about the lunar water announcement, the Augustine Commission, the U.S. Congress, and our plans to return to the Moon. Do not miss this discussion. During this first segment, Mr. Baroff stressed the need for there to be an international effort in space development to reduce costs. We also started the discussion regarding the California Space Education and Workforce Institute and public education in California and elsewhere re STEM, social studies and related space educational issues. In Segment two, we discussed education, students, parents, and teachers. We talked about the problem of teaching to the test and the fact that there are no tests for the science and space topics so they are not as heavily taught in the schools as those subjects used in the test, basic reading and math. Lynn spoke about the need for educational standards enforcement. Listeners asked about apprenticeship programs and Andrew in Tucson even suggested a novel video/YouTube type of program to assist parents in helping their kids with math and science homework. Again, don't miss this discussion and the listener questions. In Segment three, Mr. Baroff was asked about the new badge security system at JPL for the Mars Rovers. As we learned, this was a NASA and actually a government wide security change that many people do not like. We also talked about how the media portrays technical experts on TV and in the movies, as nerds, socially maladjusted, and anything but a popular outgoing man or woman. Lynn suggested that this is a negative influence on school kids and may play a part in many turning away from the STEM subjects. He suggested a more positive portrayal of the technical experts across all media to change what has become a negative in our culture. In this segment, we started talking about the human-robotic interface and that for long duration missions or settlement, we would need to be able to trust and place significantly more reliability in our robotics and computers than we do now. It was said that everyone wanted a Hal 2000 but without all the problems and negatives. In Segment 4, I brought up the Dr. Spudis editorial on using space as economic infrastructure and the fact that it does not need to be in our consciousness. Dr. Spudis equated space development to the railroads. If you want to read the Spudis essay, you can find it here: www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1349. During the last part of this final segment, we talked about some of the major human factors needed for a human to Mars mission and why we are not yet ready to undertake such a mission. This is definitely a discussion you will want to hear. If you have comments or questions for Lynn Baroff, visit his website at www.csewi.org. You can email your comments or questions to him at info@csewi.org. Make sure to reference both his name and The Space Show in the email subject line.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Lynn Baroff. Topics: Space education in public school, human-robotic systems integration, Mars, space policy. Lynn Baroff was the guest for this Space Show program. We started Segment one with a discussion of the upcoming NASA Lunar Lander Challenge to be held this year at NASA Ames the weekend of October 17-18. The public is welcome. Mr. Baroff is the leading judge for the event and my having been to the event last year, I know that this year's program will be even better. Mr. Baroff said there were 21 contestants this year, he described the rules of the Challenge and we also talked about the simulated regolith material. Several questions came in about the recent NASA announcement of lunar water and if this development would impact or add to the importance of this year's contest. This led us to a discussion about the lunar water announcement, the Augustine Commission, the U.S. Congress, and our plans to return to the Moon. Do not miss this discussion. During this first segment, Mr. Baroff stressed the need for there to be an international effort in space development to reduce costs. We also started the discussion regarding the California Space Education and Workforce Institute and public education in California and elsewhere re STEM, social studies and related space educational issues. In Segment two, we discussed education, students, parents, and teachers. We talked about the problem of teaching to the test and the fact that there are no tests for the science and space topics so they are not as heavily taught in the schools as those subjects used in the test, basic reading and math. Lynn spoke about the need for educational standards enforcement. Listeners asked about apprenticeship programs and Andrew in Tucson even suggested a novel video/YouTube type of program to assist parents in helping their kids with math and science homework. Again, don't miss this discussion and the listener questions. In Segment three, Mr. Baroff was asked about the new badge security system at JPL for the Mars Rovers. As we learned, this was a NASA and actually a government wide security change that many people do not like. We also talked about how the media portrays technical experts on TV and in the movies, as nerds, socially maladjusted, and anything but a popular outgoing man or woman. Lynn suggested that this is a negative influence on school kids and may play a part in many turning away from the STEM subjects. He suggested a more positive portrayal of the technical experts across all media to change what has become a negative in our culture. In this segment, we started talking about the human-robotic interface and that for long duration missions or settlement, we would need to be able to trust and place significantly more reliability in our robotics and computers than we do now. It was said that everyone wanted a Hal 2000 but without all the problems and negatives. In Segment 4, I brought up the Dr. Spudis editorial on using space as economic infrastructure and the fact that it does not need to be in our consciousness. Dr. Spudis equated space development to the railroads. If you want to read the Spudis essay, you can find it here: www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1349. During the last part of this final segment, we talked about some of the major human factors needed for a human to Mars mission and why we are not yet ready to undertake such a mission. This is definitely a discussion you will want to hear. If you have comments or questions for Lynn Baroff, visit his website at www.csewi.org. You can email your comments or questions to him at info@csewi.org. Make sure to reference both his name and The Space Show in the email subject line.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:11:18 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Larry Williams, Tuesday, 9-22-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Larry Williams. Topics: Next Step In Space, Commercial Space, SpaceX, Augustine Commission. Larry Williams, the VP for Strategic Relations for SpaceX, was our guest today to discuss the newly formed commercial space organization, Next Step In Space (www.nextstepinspace.com). During Segment One, Larry provided us with the background and genesis for founding Next Step In Space and we discussed the commercial space members of the organization and the difference in ISS access and transportation versus going to the Moon, Mars, and beyond. We also talked about the recent Dr. Griffin congressional testimony regarding the Augustine Commission hearings and Mike's public email in which he put forth his comments regarding the Augustine Commission. If you want to read his testimony and the email, here are the respective URLs: Congressional testimony: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=32378; Dr. Griffin email: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=32351. In this segment,...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Larry Williams. Topics: Next Step In Space, Commercial Space, SpaceX, Augustine Commission. Larry Williams, the VP for Strategic Relations for SpaceX, was our guest today to discuss the newly formed commercial space organization, Next Step In Space (www.nextstepinspace.com). During Segment One, Larry provided us with the background and genesis for founding Next Step In Space and we discussed the commercial space members of the organization and the difference in ISS access and transportation versus going to the Moon, Mars, and beyond. We also talked about the recent Dr. Griffin congressional testimony regarding the Augustine Commission hearings and Mike's public email in which he put forth his comments regarding the Augustine Commission. If you want to read his testimony and the email, here are the respective URLs: Congressional testimony: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=32378; Dr. Griffin email: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=32351. In this segment, we started the discussion regarding using EELVs for ISS cargo and crew transportation and Larry explained to us the initial intent of the VSE in which ISS access was treated separately from visiting the Moon and going to Mars. Somehow these respective missions have become blurred and confused over time and with lots of rhetoric. This subject continued through the other segments of the program. In Segment Two, we started off with a question from listener Jack regarding the probability of the Obama Administration investing more in R&amp;D, specifically space R&amp;D. Jack offered a quote from President Obama to suggest his administration would be investing more in R&amp;D than previous administrations. You do not want to miss this discussion. In this segment, Larry told us about the new White Paper published by Next Step In Space and available to the public at www.nextstepinspace.com/downloads/NSIS-White-Paper-Sept22.pdf. In many ways, this White Paper was a response for accurate education regarding the VSE, Constellation, etc. to members of Congress regarding the Augustine testimony, plus the public. I recommend you read this paper. We also talked about COTS, NASA using Soyuz to access the ISS, and the business/financial consequence of that decision on earlier COTS participants. The issue of extra money for NASA came up and as Larry clarified for us, to do all of the NASA programs talked about in Augustine, an additional $5 billion per year more would be needed, not the much referred to $3 billion annual increase. Don't miss this important clarification. The subject of inspiring others, students, and the population came up during this segment. In Segment three, we focused our attention on Next Step In Space, learned how it was funded, how each of us can join and participate in it, and we talked the need for heavy lift rockets. Near the end of the program, Larry was asked to summarize his years with SpaceX and talk about how the perception and reception of the company has changed from its early days to the current time with successes and amazing projects under its belt and on the way to implementation. Larry had much to say in response to this question so don't miss it. Clearly, SpaceX has and is achieving great things for breaking the paradigm of how we access space and undertake commercial space projects. Hear now how the view of SpaceX from outside the space community has changed over time as these programs have come to fruition. If you have questions or comments for Larry Williams, please email him at larry@spacex.com.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Larry Williams. Topics: Next Step In Space, Commercial Space, SpaceX, Augustine Commission. Larry Williams, the VP for Strategic Relations for SpaceX, was our guest today to discuss the newly formed commercial space organization, Next Step In Space (www.nextstepinspace.com). During Segment One, Larry provided us with the background and genesis for founding Next Step In Space and we discussed the commercial space members of the organization and the difference in ISS access and transportation versus going to the Moon, Mars, and beyond. We also talked about the recent Dr. Griffin congressional testimony regarding the Augustine Commission hearings and Mike's public email in which he put forth his comments regarding the Augustine Commission. If you want to read his testimony and the email, here are the respective URLs: Congressional testimony: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=32378; Dr. Griffin email: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=32351. In this segment, we started the discussion regarding using EELVs for ISS cargo and crew transportation and Larry explained to us the initial intent of the VSE in which ISS access was treated separately from visiting the Moon and going to Mars. Somehow these respective missions have become blurred and confused over time and with lots of rhetoric. This subject continued through the other segments of the program. In Segment Two, we started off with a question from listener Jack regarding the probability of the Obama Administration investing more in R&amp;D, specifically space R&amp;D. Jack offered a quote from President Obama to suggest his administration would be investing more in R&amp;D than previous administrations. You do not want to miss this discussion. In this segment, Larry told us about the new White Paper published by Next Step In Space and available to the public at www.nextstepinspace.com/downloads/NSIS-White-Paper-Sept22.pdf. In many ways, this White Paper was a response for accurate education regarding the VSE, Constellation, etc. to members of Congress regarding the Augustine testimony, plus the public. I recommend you read this paper. We also talked about COTS, NASA using Soyuz to access the ISS, and the business/financial consequence of that decision on earlier COTS participants. The issue of extra money for NASA came up and as Larry clarified for us, to do all of the NASA programs talked about in Augustine, an additional $5 billion per year more would be needed, not the much referred to $3 billion annual increase. Don't miss this important clarification. The subject of inspiring others, students, and the population came up during this segment. In Segment three, we focused our attention on Next Step In Space, learned how it was funded, how each of us can join and participate in it, and we talked the need for heavy lift rockets. Near the end of the program, Larry was asked to summarize his years with SpaceX and talk about how the perception and reception of the company has changed from its early days to the current time with successes and amazing projects under its belt and on the way to implementation. Larry had much to say in response to this question so don't miss it. Clearly, SpaceX has and is achieving great things for breaking the paradigm of how we access space and undertake commercial space projects. Hear now how the view of SpaceX from outside the space community has changed over time as these programs have come to fruition. If you have questions or comments for Larry Williams, please email him at larry@spacex.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Al Reisz, Monday, 9-21-09</title>
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      <description>Guest: Al Reisz. Topics: space exploration, ECR space propulsion engine, space policy, Augustine, LCROSS. Al Reisz was the guest for today's Space Show program. The first segment started with a look back at some of Al's earlier work with the Saturn V and the J-2 engine. We spent some time discussing testing and the need to learn by failing in order to have success. Mr. Reisz had much to say that was important on this subject, don't miss it. We then discussed the work he is doing on his ECR, the Electron Cyclotron Resonance Space Engine. We discussed ion propulsion and how it works, the VASIMR engine, and the timeline for bringing ECR online. Mr. Reisz was asked to explain the advantages and why people should care about developing this new technology for space travel. Listen to what he had to say. In the second segment, Al was asked about the case for exploring space and he talked about the need to develop new science for the benefit of humanity. We then linked this need to new techn...</description>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest: Al Reisz. Topics: space exploration, ECR space propulsion engine, space policy, Augustine, LCROSS. Al Reisz was the guest for today's Space Show program. The first segment started with a look back at some of Al's earlier work with the Saturn V and the J-2 engine. We spent some time discussing testing and the need to learn by failing in order to have success. Mr. Reisz had much to say that was important on this subject, don't miss it. We then discussed the work he is doing on his ECR, the Electron Cyclotron Resonance Space Engine. We discussed ion propulsion and how it works, the VASIMR engine, and the timeline for bringing ECR online. Mr. Reisz was asked to explain the advantages and why people should care about developing this new technology for space travel. Listen to what he had to say. In the second segment, Al was asked about the case for exploring space and he talked about the need to develop new science for the benefit of humanity. We then linked this need to new technology such as the ECR. Mars human missions were discussed in the context of what the ECR would mean for rapid to and from trips to Mars and we also brought up space policy in light of the Augustine Commission findings. Listeners had many questions for Al including questions about his thoughts on the Ares 1 rocket given his Saturn V experience. You do not want to miss what he had to say about Ares 1 and Constellation. Toward the end of this segment, Al was asked about fusion space energy and his thoughts on space solar power. He also talked about our need to promote space better. In the third segment, we talked some more about the Saturn V and the J-2 engine and how to better involve the public in developing and implementing space policy. I asked about some of the comments I read in a recent essay on space development by Dr. Spudis regarding the use of space for our economy and wealth building, but that like the railroads and trucks on the highway, space does not have to be in our consciousness any more than railroads are in our consciousness. Al agreed, but said that since we first needed commercial space infrastructure, we still had to promote and work to get space to the point where it could support industrialization as did the railroads once their development was in full motion. Toward the end of the program, he received a listener question about the NASA LCROSS mission, its plan to hit the Moon and see if ice is abundant on the lunar south pole. The scheduled impact is Oct. 9 of this year. To learn more about the work and ECR of Al Reisz, visit his website at http://www.reiszeng.com . If you have a comment or question you would like to ask him, please email him areisz@reiszeng.com .</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Al Reisz. Topics: space exploration, ECR space propulsion engine, space policy, Augustine, LCROSS. Al Reisz was the guest for today's Space Show program. The first segment started with a look back at some of Al's earlier work with the Saturn V and the J-2 engine. We spent some time discussing testing and the need to learn by failing in order to have success. Mr. Reisz had much to say that was important on this subject, don't miss it. We then discussed the work he is doing on his ECR, the Electron Cyclotron Resonance Space Engine. We discussed ion propulsion and how it works, the VASIMR engine, and the timeline for bringing ECR online. Mr. Reisz was asked to explain the advantages and why people should care about developing this new technology for space travel. Listen to what he had to say. In the second segment, Al was asked about the case for exploring space and he talked about the need to develop new science for the benefit of humanity. We then linked this need to new technology such as the ECR. Mars human missions were discussed in the context of what the ECR would mean for rapid to and from trips to Mars and we also brought up space policy in light of the Augustine Commission findings. Listeners had many questions for Al including questions about his thoughts on the Ares 1 rocket given his Saturn V experience. You do not want to miss what he had to say about Ares 1 and Constellation. Toward the end of this segment, Al was asked about fusion space energy and his thoughts on space solar power. He also talked about our need to promote space better. In the third segment, we talked some more about the Saturn V and the J-2 engine and how to better involve the public in developing and implementing space policy. I asked about some of the comments I read in a recent essay on space development by Dr. Spudis regarding the use of space for our economy and wealth building, but that like the railroads and trucks on the highway, space does not have to be in our consciousness any more than railroads are in our consciousness. Al agreed, but said that since we first needed commercial space infrastructure, we still had to promote and work to get space to the point where it could support industrialization as did the railroads once their development was in full motion. Toward the end of the program, he received a listener question about the NASA LCROSS mission, its plan to hit the Moon and see if ice is abundant on the lunar south pole. The scheduled impact is Oct. 9 of this year. To learn more about the work and ECR of Al Reisz, visit his website at http://www.reiszeng.com . If you have a comment or question you would like to ask him, please email him areisz@reiszeng.com .</itunes:summary>
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