http://www.odeo.com/channels/4916-Johnnie-Moore-s-Weblog-Podcasts no Podcasts Podcasts Podcasts 40 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:37:29 -0800 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:37:29 -0800 http://www.odeo.com/episodes/24214508-Podcast-Viv-McWaters This morning I recorded a podcast with Viv McWaters. Viv's a fellow facilitator and we shot the breeze about a few common interests. Download the Podcast (30m, 10.5 MB) Podcast RSS feed Some of the stuff we covered: GFC: Global Financial Crisis or Geelong Football Club The pitfalls of strategic planning and the need for it to be The Truth. Dealing with our need for control and the lessons of losing the car keys. Roland Harwood of NESTA's model of conversations, relationships then transactions The dilemma in the audience: we know what we should be doing but we're doing the other thing because it's someone else's agenda Does this get you in the gut? Bush fires and facilitation in recovery.. Responding to the global economic crisis.. trust leaders or go peer-to-peer... the idea behind We20 Going from filter then publish to publish then filter as a model for media, and taking responsibility for the information you're receiving The world is more complex but that doesn't have to disable u... This morning I recorded a podcast with Viv McWaters. Viv's a fellow facilitator and we shot the breeze about a few common interests. Download the Podcast (30m, 10.5 MB) Podcast RSS feed Some of the stuff we covered: GFC: Global Financial Crisis or Geelong Football Club The pitfalls of strategic planning and the need for it to be The Truth. Dealing with our need for control and the lessons of losing the car keys. Roland Harwood of NESTA's model of conversations, relationships then transactions The dilemma in the audience: we know what we should be doing but we're doing the other thing because it's someone else's agenda Does this get you in the gut? Bush fires and facilitation in recovery.. Responding to the global economic crisis.. trust leaders or go peer-to-peer... the idea behind We20 Going from filter then publish to publish then filter as a model for media, and taking responsibility for the information you're receiving The world is more complex but that doesn't have to disable us. Human beings can be great at complexity. Letting go of the need for certainty. Standing on an enormous sea of jello. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2112.obfuscator('D5GGRD5ftf', '0uEcJBr618g9mXyN4wDfVil2MntTCbZIY5UALQokHspWqva7Ox3djFKzeRPSGh', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2112.', ''); Comment This morning I recorded a podcast with Viv McWaters. Viv's a fellow facilitator and we shot the breeze about a few common interests. Download the Podcast (30m, 10.5 MB) Podcast RSS feed Some of the stuff we covered: GFC: Global Financial Crisis or Geelong Football Club The pitfalls of strategic planning and the need for it to be The Truth. Dealing with our need for control and the lessons of losing the car keys. Roland Harwood of NESTA's model of conversations, relationships then transactions The dilemma in the audience: we know what we should be doing but we're doing the other thing because it's someone else's agenda Does this get you in the gut? Bush fires and facilitation in recovery.. Responding to the global economic crisis.. trust leaders or go peer-to-peer... the idea behind We20 Going from filter then publish to publish then filter as a model for media, and taking responsibility for the information you're receiving The world is more complex but that doesn't have to disable us. Human beings can be great at complexity. Letting go of the need for certainty. Standing on an enormous sea of jello. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2112.obfuscator('D5GGRD5ftf', '0uEcJBr618g9mXyN4wDfVil2MntTCbZIY5UALQokHspWqva7Ox3djFKzeRPSGh', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2112.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2009-02-26,24214508 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:37:29 -0800 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/24112678-Podcast-letting-go-of-planning-and-control Rob Poynton, Mark Earls and I recorded a podcast this morning, around the benefits of doing less planning. The podcast itself was largely unplanned but we managed to cover quite a few interesting topics. Download the Podcast (27m45s, 9.8MB) Podcast RSS feed Here's my rough summary of what we talked about but hopefully you'll want to hear for yourself. We begin talking about the workshop Mark, James and I ran with NESTA a couple of weeks ago and looking at what improv can teach us about control and influence. Mark refers to Simon Caulkin's recent piece in the Observer highlighting dual standards among CEOs when it comes to control - they seem to advocate light touch control of their companies by government but tight control by them of their internal processes. We go on to explore how this paradoxical attitude to control goes on in each of us, and start looking at two different notions of power - one which is more about power over others, the other more about sensing our intimate conn... Rob Poynton, Mark Earls and I recorded a podcast this morning, around the benefits of doing less planning. The podcast itself was largely unplanned but we managed to cover quite a few interesting topics. Download the Podcast (27m45s, 9.8MB) Podcast RSS feed Here's my rough summary of what we talked about but hopefully you'll want to hear for yourself. We begin talking about the workshop Mark, James and I ran with NESTA a couple of weeks ago and looking at what improv can teach us about control and influence. Mark refers to Simon Caulkin's recent piece in the Observer highlighting dual standards among CEOs when it comes to control - they seem to advocate light touch control of their companies by government but tight control by them of their internal processes. We go on to explore how this paradoxical attitude to control goes on in each of us, and start looking at two different notions of power - one which is more about power over others, the other more about sensing our intimate connectedness to the world and operating from that sense. Rob is based in Spain and explains that the Spanish have two different words for power use the same word for 'power' as for 'capability' that relates to this idea. We talk about how Improv can teach us the difference between controlling a narrative, say, and realising that we can have great influence over it. I get in my mantra of "notice more, change less" and how it influences how I manage my own anxieties, as well how I work with groups. Rob elaborates on the flow state of almost disappearing from groups he facilitates. We look at the connections between Lenin, Henry Ford and Frederick Taylor - and how we want to move away from a brain-based, mechanistic notions of how the world works towards approaches that are, literally, more full-bodied. As Mark puts it, "the twentieth century dehumanised this amazing, collaborative, co-creative, brilliant species of ours into something which is a gross distortion, and we've lost a lot as a result." And Rob ends by talking about how we can, paradoxically, use the fruits of that divisive way of thinking to have a kind of connectedness we've never had before. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2104.obfuscator('tM3VttMtEg', 'uPiW19TmCE7K8UtfFOHp6Ige4ALJnY3rdzoBZDawM2jXQNShy5RVbvqcskxGl0', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2104.', ''); Comment Rob Poynton, Mark Earls and I recorded a podcast this morning, around the benefits of doing less planning. The podcast itself was largely unplanned but we managed to cover quite a few interesting topics. Download the Podcast (27m45s, 9.8MB) Podcast RSS feed Here's my rough summary of what we talked about but hopefully you'll want to hear for yourself. We begin talking about the workshop Mark, James and I ran with NESTA a couple of weeks ago and looking at what improv can teach us about control and influence. Mark refers to Simon Caulkin's recent piece in the Observer highlighting dual standards among CEOs when it comes to control - they seem to advocate light touch control of their companies by government but tight control by them of their internal processes. We go on to explore how this paradoxical attitude to control goes on in each of us, and start looking at two different notions of power - one which is more about power over others, the other more about sensing our intimate connectedness to the world and operating from that sense. Rob is based in Spain and explains that the Spanish have two different words for power use the same word for 'power' as for 'capability' that relates to this idea. We talk about how Improv can teach us the difference between controlling a narrative, say, and realising that we can have great influence over it. I get in my mantra of "notice more, change less" and how it influences how I manage my own anxieties, as well how I work with groups. Rob elaborates on the flow state of almost disappearing from groups he facilitates. We look at the connections between Lenin, Henry Ford and Frederick Taylor - and how we want to move away from a brain-based, mechanistic notions of how the world works towards approaches that are, literally, more full-bodied. As Mark puts it, "the twentieth century dehumanised this amazing, collaborative, co-creative, brilliant species of ours into something which is a gross distortion, and we've lost a lot as a result." And Rob ends by talking about how we can, paradoxically, use the fruits of that divisive way of thinking to have a kind of connectedness we've never had before. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2104.obfuscator('tM3VttMtEg', 'uPiW19TmCE7K8UtfFOHp6Ige4ALJnY3rdzoBZDawM2jXQNShy5RVbvqcskxGl0', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2104.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2009-02-16,24112678 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:16:09 -0800 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265634-WinkiPod While I was in Australia, I recorded a podcast, pretty much on the spur of the moment, with Geoff Brown and Vic McWaters. We recorded it on a cliff overlooking the WinkiPop surf break nears Bells Beach. It's a typically rambling performance but if you stick with it, we touch on a few interesting facilitation themes. We get into the idea of surfing as a metaphor for it, explained more by this post by Geoff. Listening to it this morning has been a good reminder for me about the importance of not trying too hard and not trying to be a genius. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2031.obfuscator('gtVmIgtVmE', 'B81UFRausobmgfZYckxnT7XPWQ3pyN4EKrw5VHzhtMS62dC9Gj0qAIDiJLvOel', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2031.', ''); Comment While I was in Australia, I recorded a podcast, pretty much on the spur of the moment, with Geoff Brown and Vic McWaters. We recorded it on a cliff overlooking the WinkiPop surf break nears Bells Beach. It's a typically rambling performance but if you stick with it, we touch on a few interesting facilitation themes. We get into the idea of surfing as a metaphor for it, explained more by this post by Geoff. Listening to it this morning has been a good reminder for me about the importance of not trying too hard and not trying to be a genius. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2031.obfuscator('gtVmIgtVmE', 'B81UFRausobmgfZYckxnT7XPWQ3pyN4EKrw5VHzhtMS62dC9Gj0qAIDiJLvOel', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2031.', ''); Comment While I was in Australia, I recorded a podcast, pretty much on the spur of the moment, with Geoff Brown and Vic McWaters. We recorded it on a cliff overlooking the WinkiPop surf break nears Bells Beach. It's a typically rambling performance but if you stick with it, we touch on a few interesting facilitation themes. We get into the idea of surfing as a metaphor for it, explained more by this post by Geoff. Listening to it this morning has been a good reminder for me about the importance of not trying too hard and not trying to be a genius. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2031.obfuscator('gtVmIgtVmE', 'B81UFRausobmgfZYckxnT7XPWQ3pyN4EKrw5VHzhtMS62dC9Gj0qAIDiJLvOel', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/2031.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-09-02,23265634 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:26:08 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265639-Hugh-and-the-Rabbi-6 The other day, Hugh, Pinny, Mark and I recorded another of our podcasts. It's very much in our tradition of non-linear conversation. Sorry, no show notes for this one - I've not found time to do them this time. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1989.obfuscator('4Y43O4YYCE', 'QRiWEl7MZgFcbIGHx08aAheJ6Um3dquN1yCrnYXjto4PkLvw9KfTOVBp2S5zsD', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1989.', ''); Comment The other day, Hugh, Pinny, Mark and I recorded another of our podcasts. It's very much in our tradition of non-linear conversation. Sorry, no show notes for this one - I've not found time to do them this time. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1989.obfuscator('4Y43O4YYCE', 'QRiWEl7MZgFcbIGHx08aAheJ6Um3dquN1yCrnYXjto4PkLvw9KfTOVBp2S5zsD', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1989.', ''); Comment The other day, Hugh, Pinny, Mark and I recorded another of our podcasts. It's very much in our tradition of non-linear conversation. Sorry, no show notes for this one - I've not found time to do them this time. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1989.obfuscator('4Y43O4YYCE', 'QRiWEl7MZgFcbIGHx08aAheJ6Um3dquN1yCrnYXjto4PkLvw9KfTOVBp2S5zsD', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1989.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-06-23,23265639 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:55:26 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265642-Hugh-Rabbi-and-the-Tribe Hugh, Pinny and I invited Ben Keene of Tribe Wanted onto our podcast. I heard Ben give a talk in London and found his story inspiring. We chatted to him for 30 minutes about his experience setting up a tribe on a pacific island, with an extended online community. It's another great example of the sort of collaboration the web makes possible, and it's also a fabulous example of how its about high touch as well as high tech. Enjoy. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed (all my podcasts) Podcast RSS feed (just Hugh and the Rabbi podcasts) Show Notes You know the drill, these are rough, check against delivery, do not chew the woodwork etc. 0.00 Intros 1.00 Ben recaps the story of Tribe Wanted. Could we take an online community and give it a real world headquarters on a desert island. 2.00 How the tribal chief shook hands with Ben and turned down Survivor 3.00 Working to build a sustainable village in Fiji, where people visit for 2 weeks but sustain their membership online. 4.00 Johnnie:... Hugh, Pinny and I invited Ben Keene of Tribe Wanted onto our podcast. I heard Ben give a talk in London and found his story inspiring. We chatted to him for 30 minutes about his experience setting up a tribe on a pacific island, with an extended online community. It's another great example of the sort of collaboration the web makes possible, and it's also a fabulous example of how its about high touch as well as high tech. Enjoy. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed (all my podcasts) Podcast RSS feed (just Hugh and the Rabbi podcasts) Show Notes You know the drill, these are rough, check against delivery, do not chew the woodwork etc. 0.00 Intros 1.00 Ben recaps the story of Tribe Wanted. Could we take an online community and give it a real world headquarters on a desert island. 2.00 How the tribal chief shook hands with Ben and turned down Survivor 3.00 Working to build a sustainable village in Fiji, where people visit for 2 weeks but sustain their membership online. 4.00 Johnnie: reading the book, it seems the idea emerged from a conversation over a beer in Manchester. How did this crazy idea happen? Ben: the idea itself was so powerful. Creating a real world community could be done; building an online community could be done; so the leap of faith was in putting the two together. 5.55 Hugh: Tourism has made visiting exotic places fairly ordinary, so this idea of participating creates more sense of adventure than just sipping cocktails on a beach. As marketing gets more sophisticated, the search for meaning gets deeper. 6.40 Ben: The range of motives of community members ranges from wanting to lie on a beach to a real search for meaning. 7.40 Pinny: Draws analogy to the shtetl in Poland or Kibbutz in Israel. What is the role of the chief in this? 8.15 Ben on the ideas of leadership in Fiji. Part of the social experiment was to create an online democracy, which - amongs other things - elects the tribe leader each month. Leaders have ranged from 19 to 60. They have to really engage with the local community, this isn't another reality TV show. 10.05 Pinny: how are people reacting to this idea. Ben answers: inital response to the idea when we threw it out was pretty big - but a lot of people said it would never work. 11.30 Hugh talks about England's native scepticism. Ben explains how the US reacted more positively. 12.55 Hugh asks how Ben met the island chief. Ben tells how someone on the island had foretold that the world would come to the island. They'd actually anticipated this, and put the island up for lease to help the prophecy come true. 14.30 Pinny asks about sustainability. (Will you end it and then do the book tour?) 15.20 Ben answers and talks about the future. The beginning of a much bigger story, extending the lease on the island and other ways to build on the idea. 16.45 Johnnie: sense that although Ben has led the project, in many ways it feels like the story itself has led Ben. Johnnie prompts Ben to tell the story of how explained his idea to the islanders. 17.30 Ben tells the story [it's worth listening to, I'm not writing it up, but it involves the local narcotic, David Beckham and the best use of a Venn diagram I'm ever likely to hear.] 20.15 Johnnie asks Ben to talk about how the community, in its very early days, coped with a major island fire. Baptism of fire indeed. There was a classic difference in the way Fijians and non-Fijians responded. The locals made tea and waited for the fire to burn itself out; some of the visitors tried to take action. How this represented different ideas of what community meant - and also notions of leadership. 22.40 Johnnie asks about how the island itself is a teacher; Ben talks about how the islanders celebrate mother's day and frame the island itself as a mother. 23.20 Pinny asks about the spiritual/religious side, how does that work out? Ben: pretty much everyone that comes seems in tune with what we're doing. The Fijians live a fairly traditional, Christian way of life. Things seem to pan out ok. 25.15 Pinny asks whether people stay engaged. Ben says this is the biggest challenge, including adapting to the fast changing technology eg things like Facebook. 27.25 Ben talks about the power of ideas, and trying to build a life around one. 28.00 Johnnie wraps up. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1975.obfuscator('EK3KKEKtDK', 'dxqFCG8XAjP4R7OeDVo1nK0kbal59EB6ZMvJsyfLi3uWISpNrzgtYmhwQHTUc2', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1975.', ''); Comment Hugh, Pinny and I invited Ben Keene of Tribe Wanted onto our podcast. I heard Ben give a talk in London and found his story inspiring. We chatted to him for 30 minutes about his experience setting up a tribe on a pacific island, with an extended online community. It's another great example of the sort of collaboration the web makes possible, and it's also a fabulous example of how its about high touch as well as high tech. Enjoy. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed (all my podcasts) Podcast RSS feed (just Hugh and the Rabbi podcasts) Show Notes You know the drill, these are rough, check against delivery, do not chew the woodwork etc. 0.00 Intros 1.00 Ben recaps the story of Tribe Wanted. Could we take an online community and give it a real world headquarters on a desert island. 2.00 How the tribal chief shook hands with Ben and turned down Survivor 3.00 Working to build a sustainable village in Fiji, where people visit for 2 weeks but sustain their membership online. 4.00 Johnnie: reading the book, it seems the idea emerged from a conversation over a beer in Manchester. How did this crazy idea happen? Ben: the idea itself was so powerful. Creating a real world community could be done; building an online community could be done; so the leap of faith was in putting the two together. 5.55 Hugh: Tourism has made visiting exotic places fairly ordinary, so this idea of participating creates more sense of adventure than just sipping cocktails on a beach. As marketing gets more sophisticated, the search for meaning gets deeper. 6.40 Ben: The range of motives of community members ranges from wanting to lie on a beach to a real search for meaning. 7.40 Pinny: Draws analogy to the shtetl in Poland or Kibbutz in Israel. What is the role of the chief in this? 8.15 Ben on the ideas of leadership in Fiji. Part of the social experiment was to create an online democracy, which - amongs other things - elects the tribe leader each month. Leaders have ranged from 19 to 60. They have to really engage with the local community, this isn't another reality TV show. 10.05 Pinny: how are people reacting to this idea. Ben answers: inital response to the idea when we threw it out was pretty big - but a lot of people said it would never work. 11.30 Hugh talks about England's native scepticism. Ben explains how the US reacted more positively. 12.55 Hugh asks how Ben met the island chief. Ben tells how someone on the island had foretold that the world would come to the island. They'd actually anticipated this, and put the island up for lease to help the prophecy come true. 14.30 Pinny asks about sustainability. (Will you end it and then do the book tour?) 15.20 Ben answers and talks about the future. The beginning of a much bigger story, extending the lease on the island and other ways to build on the idea. 16.45 Johnnie: sense that although Ben has led the project, in many ways it feels like the story itself has led Ben. Johnnie prompts Ben to tell the story of how explained his idea to the islanders. 17.30 Ben tells the story [it's worth listening to, I'm not writing it up, but it involves the local narcotic, David Beckham and the best use of a Venn diagram I'm ever likely to hear.] 20.15 Johnnie asks Ben to talk about how the community, in its very early days, coped with a major island fire. Baptism of fire indeed. There was a classic difference in the way Fijians and non-Fijians responded. The locals made tea and waited for the fire to burn itself out; some of the visitors tried to take action. How this represented different ideas of what community meant - and also notions of leadership. 22.40 Johnnie asks about how the island itself is a teacher; Ben talks about how the islanders celebrate mother's day and frame the island itself as a mother. 23.20 Pinny asks about the spiritual/religious side, how does that work out? Ben: pretty much everyone that comes seems in tune with what we're doing. The Fijians live a fairly traditional, Christian way of life. Things seem to pan out ok. 25.15 Pinny asks whether people stay engaged. Ben says this is the biggest challenge, including adapting to the fast changing technology eg things like Facebook. 27.25 Ben talks about the power of ideas, and trying to build a life around one. 28.00 Johnnie wraps up. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1975.obfuscator('EK3KKEKtDK', 'dxqFCG8XAjP4R7OeDVo1nK0kbal59EB6ZMvJsyfLi3uWISpNrzgtYmhwQHTUc2', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1975.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-06-02,23265642 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:38:14 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265645-What-s-Love-Got-to-do-with-It The latest Hugh and the Rabbi podcast features Hugh, Pinny, me and guest Euan Semple. Recorded a few weeks ago, we've only just round to posting it but I hope you enjoy it. We went round the houses on a few things, but started off talking about love and what it might have to do with organisations. Show notes below, you know the drill: unreliable blah blah.... timings approximate yadda yadda... rough paraphrasing etc etc... don't take literally, rhubarb rhubarb. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed (all my podcasts) Podcast RSS feed (just Hugh and the Rabbi podcasts) Show notes 0.00 Intros, Hugh forgets who "the Scottish guy is" and isn't sure what Euan does but settles for rock star. 1.00 Hugh sets up the idea of love, recalling a talk about this by Euan at Reboot. 1.45 Euan talks about the L word, and people's reactions to it. It's about people's basic desire to connect to each other, caring about things, getting passionate about things. So much of the business world sanitises pas... The latest Hugh and the Rabbi podcast features Hugh, Pinny, me and guest Euan Semple. Recorded a few weeks ago, we've only just round to posting it but I hope you enjoy it. We went round the houses on a few things, but started off talking about love and what it might have to do with organisations. Show notes below, you know the drill: unreliable blah blah.... timings approximate yadda yadda... rough paraphrasing etc etc... don't take literally, rhubarb rhubarb. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed (all my podcasts) Podcast RSS feed (just Hugh and the Rabbi podcasts) Show notes 0.00 Intros, Hugh forgets who "the Scottish guy is" and isn't sure what Euan does but settles for rock star. 1.00 Hugh sets up the idea of love, recalling a talk about this by Euan at Reboot. 1.45 Euan talks about the L word, and people's reactions to it. It's about people's basic desire to connect to each other, caring about things, getting passionate about things. So much of the business world sanitises passion out of things. 3.15 Pinny wonders about how companies show love. References Lovemarks. In relationships, if you don't go to the nth degree, everything else doesn't count. Talks about how mistakes by Facebook and Apple get pounced on by the blogosphere. 4.40 Lovemarks proves a red rag to Johnnie's bull. Love means different things to different people. Johnnie wary of the fanatical idea of love, the pursuit of perfection. It's more about being human, fallible. 5.50 Euan chimes in against fixation on the romantic idea of love. Instead favours "the passion that grows out of day-to-day stuff". 6.45 Hugh asks Euan about his World Service experience at the BBC. 7.30 Euan: Roughly 47 different language services in the same building. Lots of characters, different cultures. "If you were climbing ladders, they were all against different walls." - so less ego and tribalism than in the rest of the BBC. You had to get on quickly with people, the ability to engage and connect, and move ideas round the building was a formative experience. 9.00 Product of World Service is ideas but also the kind of intimacy you can create on radio. 9.50 Hugh talks about the purpose idea - what are we here for, why are we doing this. Trying to get a sense of purpose going. 10.30 Euan: purpose is good, so is obliqueness. Says what he likes about podcasts is that they are not like broadcasts. Meandering semi-conversations that get under skin in a different way than stuff projected at you in broadcasts. Conventional radio output sounds increasingly patronising. 12.20 Euan on how he pays each month to support Leo Laporte's podcasts, more than half he pays in the BBC licence fee. "That's me doing that to an individual because I really don't want him to stop podcasting." People will pay for stuff that's passionate and accessible. 13.00 Hugh contrasts Euan's story with a UK show, Newsnight Review and its affiliation with the Notting Hill cultural elite. New media is a threat, not so much to cash as to old media privilege. 14.30 Euan recalls David Weinberger saying conversations can only take place between equals. 15.00 Hugh on fanboys. 15.20 Hugh asks Pinny a question "as the only guy here with a real job": does this podcast affect your business. 16.10 Pinny: it's not affecting the business... what it affected is how people view him. Discusses impact on his employees with Hugh. 18.45 Hugh on podcasts as disruptors. Euan says disruption is a word with all sorts of baggage but we get involved in this stuff because it makes a difference. How can governance cope with these changes? It's going to change power dynamics and who is successful and why. 21.10 Pinny returns to the theme of love, inspired by his nephew's wedding where a Rabbi talked about what happens when you aren't in love with love, but with the other. Companies need to own up to mistakes. 23.00 Hugh: gosh, act like a human being, not a robot. Johnnie: intimacy an important word in Euan's story. There's something about "ordinary smallness", the ability to have a real conversation; how meetings that strive to be effective often fail. The need to feel each other as human beings. 24.30 Hugh on how small town, West Texas experience has affected him. How it's safe to have a guy walking round with a ten inch knife, because everyone knows who he is and what the knife is for. Euan reminisces about Glasgow and Pinny, Israel. 27.20 Euan: the danger of homogenisation of success. Quote Doc Searls about things being valuable without being important. 28.00 Johnnie on spending Sunday morning with the papers and someone else, where you don't talk but there's a feeling of companionship. You can't put that on a spreadsheet. 29.15 Johnnie on a twitter-related experience of finding work in a very accidental way. If fell out of a conversation where he wasn't trying to make something happen. 30.30 Pinny: the unplanned as the eureka moments of our lives. Getting beyond ego. 32.10 Pinny on the online course Oprah is doing with Eckhart Tolle. This is why the web was created: to spread goodwill. 33.00 Hugh: a lot of people are trying to use the web to do business the way it's usually been done, which misses the point. 34.00 Euan wonders about how these changes connect to our spirituality. Hugh recalls a Catholic priest who influenced him. God as a metaphor rather than a bearded sky fairy. 35.40 Pinny the web is teaching religion to say it's about human beings, not about God. It's teaching companies it's about what the customer wants to pull, not what the company wants to push. Strip away the disease of entitlement and learn humility. Connects to the rise of Barack Obama. 37.20 Johnnie on the difference between Clinton and Obama. Clinton's positioning as the leader, Obama's emphasis on us. 38.20 Euan: authority used to mean authority as conferred; now it means having a compelling argument or idea. 39.00 Johnnie on authority as being the authors of our own experience. You don't take authority from the BBC any more, you participate. 40.00 Hugh wraps by asking what advice we'd give corporate man in light of all this. Euan: be brave. Pinny: don't be stupid ("Be brave but have a day job") Empty your mid once a day for opportunity to happen. Hugh: be compassionate to those above you. Johnnie: you already know what to do. 44.35 Ends The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1960.obfuscator('bObdRbOOYk', 'ZSEUvkOCanl50wiTDxg18ydeoc4VNbhKsXuAjLzMIW97QG6BJqtfRHprY23FPm', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1960.', ''); Comment The latest Hugh and the Rabbi podcast features Hugh, Pinny, me and guest Euan Semple. Recorded a few weeks ago, we've only just round to posting it but I hope you enjoy it. We went round the houses on a few things, but started off talking about love and what it might have to do with organisations. Show notes below, you know the drill: unreliable blah blah.... timings approximate yadda yadda... rough paraphrasing etc etc... don't take literally, rhubarb rhubarb. Download the Podcast Podcast RSS feed (all my podcasts) Podcast RSS feed (just Hugh and the Rabbi podcasts) Show notes 0.00 Intros, Hugh forgets who "the Scottish guy is" and isn't sure what Euan does but settles for rock star. 1.00 Hugh sets up the idea of love, recalling a talk about this by Euan at Reboot. 1.45 Euan talks about the L word, and people's reactions to it. It's about people's basic desire to connect to each other, caring about things, getting passionate about things. So much of the business world sanitises passion out of things. 3.15 Pinny wonders about how companies show love. References Lovemarks. In relationships, if you don't go to the nth degree, everything else doesn't count. Talks about how mistakes by Facebook and Apple get pounced on by the blogosphere. 4.40 Lovemarks proves a red rag to Johnnie's bull. Love means different things to different people. Johnnie wary of the fanatical idea of love, the pursuit of perfection. It's more about being human, fallible. 5.50 Euan chimes in against fixation on the romantic idea of love. Instead favours "the passion that grows out of day-to-day stuff". 6.45 Hugh asks Euan about his World Service experience at the BBC. 7.30 Euan: Roughly 47 different language services in the same building. Lots of characters, different cultures. "If you were climbing ladders, they were all against different walls." - so less ego and tribalism than in the rest of the BBC. You had to get on quickly with people, the ability to engage and connect, and move ideas round the building was a formative experience. 9.00 Product of World Service is ideas but also the kind of intimacy you can create on radio. 9.50 Hugh talks about the purpose idea - what are we here for, why are we doing this. Trying to get a sense of purpose going. 10.30 Euan: purpose is good, so is obliqueness. Says what he likes about podcasts is that they are not like broadcasts. Meandering semi-conversations that get under skin in a different way than stuff projected at you in broadcasts. Conventional radio output sounds increasingly patronising. 12.20 Euan on how he pays each month to support Leo Laporte's podcasts, more than half he pays in the BBC licence fee. "That's me doing that to an individual because I really don't want him to stop podcasting." People will pay for stuff that's passionate and accessible. 13.00 Hugh contrasts Euan's story with a UK show, Newsnight Review and its affiliation with the Notting Hill cultural elite. New media is a threat, not so much to cash as to old media privilege. 14.30 Euan recalls David Weinberger saying conversations can only take place between equals. 15.00 Hugh on fanboys. 15.20 Hugh asks Pinny a question "as the only guy here with a real job": does this podcast affect your business. 16.10 Pinny: it's not affecting the business... what it affected is how people view him. Discusses impact on his employees with Hugh. 18.45 Hugh on podcasts as disruptors. Euan says disruption is a word with all sorts of baggage but we get involved in this stuff because it makes a difference. How can governance cope with these changes? It's going to change power dynamics and who is successful and why. 21.10 Pinny returns to the theme of love, inspired by his nephew's wedding where a Rabbi talked about what happens when you aren't in love with love, but with the other. Companies need to own up to mistakes. 23.00 Hugh: gosh, act like a human being, not a robot. Johnnie: intimacy an important word in Euan's story. There's something about "ordinary smallness", the ability to have a real conversation; how meetings that strive to be effective often fail. The need to feel each other as human beings. 24.30 Hugh on how small town, West Texas experience has affected him. How it's safe to have a guy walking round with a ten inch knife, because everyone knows who he is and what the knife is for. Euan reminisces about Glasgow and Pinny, Israel. 27.20 Euan: the danger of homogenisation of success. Quote Doc Searls about things being valuable without being important. 28.00 Johnnie on spending Sunday morning with the papers and someone else, where you don't talk but there's a feeling of companionship. You can't put that on a spreadsheet. 29.15 Johnnie on a twitter-related experience of finding work in a very accidental way. If fell out of a conversation where he wasn't trying to make something happen. 30.30 Pinny: the unplanned as the eureka moments of our lives. Getting beyond ego. 32.10 Pinny on the online course Oprah is doing with Eckhart Tolle. This is why the web was created: to spread goodwill. 33.00 Hugh: a lot of people are trying to use the web to do business the way it's usually been done, which misses the point. 34.00 Euan wonders about how these changes connect to our spirituality. Hugh recalls a Catholic priest who influenced him. God as a metaphor rather than a bearded sky fairy. 35.40 Pinny the web is teaching religion to say it's about human beings, not about God. It's teaching companies it's about what the customer wants to pull, not what the company wants to push. Strip away the disease of entitlement and learn humility. Connects to the rise of Barack Obama. 37.20 Johnnie on the difference between Clinton and Obama. Clinton's positioning as the leader, Obama's emphasis on us. 38.20 Euan: authority used to mean authority as conferred; now it means having a compelling argument or idea. 39.00 Johnnie on authority as being the authors of our own experience. You don't take authority from the BBC any more, you participate. 40.00 Hugh wraps by asking what advice we'd give corporate man in light of all this. Euan: be brave. Pinny: don't be stupid ("Be brave but have a day job") Empty your mid once a day for opportunity to happen. Hugh: be compassionate to those above you. Johnnie: you already know what to do. 44.35 Ends The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1960.obfuscator('bObdRbOOYk', 'ZSEUvkOCanl50wiTDxg18ydeoc4VNbhKsXuAjLzMIW97QG6BJqtfRHprY23FPm', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1960.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-05-12,23265645 Mon, 12 May 2008 07:41:51 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25344761-Chris-Corrigan-on-living-systems Rob and I did our latest Phoric podcast with Chris Corrigan, who was pretty awesome. Chris never fails to provoke and engage and his choice of videos was fascinating. The first features a guy who learnt how to move huge stones using small ones. He shows how, on his own, he can move a one-ton block 300 feet per hour. Then he shows how he can move a whole barn using the same principles or lift a massive block up high. Remarkable. As I say to Chris in our chat, it rehabilitates the whole of idea of leverage in organisations. He says that "gravity is my favourite tool" and I love the notion of using the least effort to achieve a result. What a great video - I'd think of showing it to a group of people trying to tackle a challenge as a bit of inspiration. Chris other choices are equally engaging, and if you listen to the podcast, see if you get as seduced by Chris' worldview as I always do. Download the Podcast RSS feed for all my podcasts The trackback link for this entry is: http://www... Rob and I did our latest Phoric podcast with Chris Corrigan, who was pretty awesome. Chris never fails to provoke and engage and his choice of videos was fascinating. The first features a guy who learnt how to move huge stones using small ones. He shows how, on his own, he can move a one-ton block 300 feet per hour. Then he shows how he can move a whole barn using the same principles or lift a massive block up high. Remarkable. As I say to Chris in our chat, it rehabilitates the whole of idea of leverage in organisations. He says that "gravity is my favourite tool" and I love the notion of using the least effort to achieve a result. What a great video - I'd think of showing it to a group of people trying to tackle a challenge as a bit of inspiration. Chris other choices are equally engaging, and if you listen to the podcast, see if you get as seduced by Chris' worldview as I always do. Download the Podcast RSS feed for all my podcasts The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.obfuscator('TUii4Tii42', 'uoYL6Nxzv8seHK4qcSIEJ0a1M3th5bd2QTRifXrVyUZ7nC9OmgWpwjkPDlAGFB', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.', ''); Comment Rob and I did our latest Phoric podcast with Chris Corrigan, who was pretty awesome. Chris never fails to provoke and engage and his choice of videos was fascinating. The first features a guy who learnt how to move huge stones using small ones. He shows how, on his own, he can move a one-ton block 300 feet per hour. Then he shows how he can move a whole barn using the same principles or lift a massive block up high. Remarkable. As I say to Chris in our chat, it rehabilitates the whole of idea of leverage in organisations. He says that "gravity is my favourite tool" and I love the notion of using the least effort to achieve a result. What a great video - I'd think of showing it to a group of people trying to tackle a challenge as a bit of inspiration. Chris other choices are equally engaging, and if you listen to the podcast, see if you get as seduced by Chris' worldview as I always do. Download the Podcast RSS feed for all my podcasts The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.obfuscator('TUii4Tii42', 'uoYL6Nxzv8seHK4qcSIEJ0a1M3th5bd2QTRifXrVyUZ7nC9OmgWpwjkPDlAGFB', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-24,25344761 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:26:43 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265648-Chris-Corrigan-on-living-systems Rob and I did our latest Phoric podcast with Chris Corrigan, who was pretty awesome. Chris never fails to provoke and engage and his choice of videos was fascinating. The first features a guy who learnt how to move huge stones using small ones. He shows how, on his own, he can move a one-ton block 300 feet per hour. Then he shows how he can move a whole barn using the same principles or lift a massive block up high. Remarkable. As I say to Chris in our chat, it rehabilitates the whole of idea of leverage in organisations. He says that "gravity is my favourite tool" and I love the notion of using the least effort to achieve a result. What a great video - I'd think of showing it to a group of people trying to tackle a challenge as a bit of inspiration. Chris other choices are equally engaging, and if you listen to the podcast, see if you get as seduced by Chris' worldview as I always do. Download the Podcast RSS feed for all my podcasts The trackback link for this entry is: http://www... Rob and I did our latest Phoric podcast with Chris Corrigan, who was pretty awesome. Chris never fails to provoke and engage and his choice of videos was fascinating. The first features a guy who learnt how to move huge stones using small ones. He shows how, on his own, he can move a one-ton block 300 feet per hour. Then he shows how he can move a whole barn using the same principles or lift a massive block up high. Remarkable. As I say to Chris in our chat, it rehabilitates the whole of idea of leverage in organisations. He says that "gravity is my favourite tool" and I love the notion of using the least effort to achieve a result. What a great video - I'd think of showing it to a group of people trying to tackle a challenge as a bit of inspiration. Chris other choices are equally engaging, and if you listen to the podcast, see if you get as seduced by Chris' worldview as I always do. Download the Podcast RSS feed for all my podcasts The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.obfuscator('I7rr0Irr0T', 'zgZu6wb4MU3F1R0Xf8VArLIoTYKHEnDtihqN5cBmSkJxG2QPWOCpyej7d9lavs', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.', ''); Comment Rob and I did our latest Phoric podcast with Chris Corrigan, who was pretty awesome. Chris never fails to provoke and engage and his choice of videos was fascinating. The first features a guy who learnt how to move huge stones using small ones. He shows how, on his own, he can move a one-ton block 300 feet per hour. Then he shows how he can move a whole barn using the same principles or lift a massive block up high. Remarkable. As I say to Chris in our chat, it rehabilitates the whole of idea of leverage in organisations. He says that "gravity is my favourite tool" and I love the notion of using the least effort to achieve a result. What a great video - I'd think of showing it to a group of people trying to tackle a challenge as a bit of inspiration. Chris other choices are equally engaging, and if you listen to the podcast, see if you get as seduced by Chris' worldview as I always do. Download the Podcast RSS feed for all my podcasts The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.obfuscator('I7rr0Irr0T', 'zgZu6wb4MU3F1R0Xf8VArLIoTYKHEnDtihqN5cBmSkJxG2QPWOCpyej7d9lavs', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1953.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-24,23265648 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:26:43 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18357133-Social-media-mockery-et-al tag:odeo.com,2008-04-11,18357133 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:36:00 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18357093-Knowledge-Management-Apparently tag:odeo.com,2008-04-11,18357093 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:15:16 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25344762-Social-media-mockery-et-al This afternoon Tom Guarriello and I shot the breeze about the Shel Israel puppet story. Sorry, no shownotes for this one. We covered a fair bit of ground: what comic influences do we see here; is the British take on this kind of satire more indulgent; is there a line to be drawn between comedy and bullying; is there a slope and is it slippery. Tom contributes some great cultural context to the backstory. In the end I think I'm mostly laughing and Tom's laughing quite a lot and also feeling a bit queasy. I could well be mistaken. Enjoy. Download the Podcast (24mins, 8MB) Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.obfuscator('DxyFpDxCcD', 'l8I9FsSkz34yRbPwja6xuEethHvACQgmd2UKNoYG5r1cnBJf0ipqDZTO7LVXMW', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.', ''); Comment This afternoon Tom Guarriello and I shot the breeze about the Shel Israel puppet story. Sorry, no shownotes for this one. We covered a fair bit of ground: what comic influences do we see here; is the British take on this kind of satire more indulgent; is there a line to be drawn between comedy and bullying; is there a slope and is it slippery. Tom contributes some great cultural context to the backstory. In the end I think I'm mostly laughing and Tom's laughing quite a lot and also feeling a bit queasy. I could well be mistaken. Enjoy. Download the Podcast (24mins, 8MB) Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.obfuscator('DxyFpDxCcD', 'l8I9FsSkz34yRbPwja6xuEethHvACQgmd2UKNoYG5r1cnBJf0ipqDZTO7LVXMW', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.', ''); Comment This afternoon Tom Guarriello and I shot the breeze about the Shel Israel puppet story. Sorry, no shownotes for this one. We covered a fair bit of ground: what comic influences do we see here; is the British take on this kind of satire more indulgent; is there a line to be drawn between comedy and bullying; is there a slope and is it slippery. Tom contributes some great cultural context to the backstory. In the end I think I'm mostly laughing and Tom's laughing quite a lot and also feeling a bit queasy. I could well be mistaken. Enjoy. Download the Podcast (24mins, 8MB) Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.obfuscator('DxyFpDxCcD', 'l8I9FsSkz34yRbPwja6xuEethHvACQgmd2UKNoYG5r1cnBJf0ipqDZTO7LVXMW', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-11,25344762 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:36:00 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265650-Social-media-mockery-et-al This afternoon Tom Guarriello and I shot the breeze about the Shel Israel puppet story. Sorry, no shownotes for this one. We covered a fair bit of ground: what comic influences do we see here; is the British take on this kind of satire more indulgent; is there a line to be drawn between comedy and bullying; is there a slope and is it slippery. Tom contributes some great cultural context to the backstory. In the end I think I'm mostly laughing and Tom's laughing quite a lot and also feeling a bit queasy. I could well be mistaken. Enjoy. Download the Podcast (24mins, 8MB) Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.obfuscator('LC0RPLCTDL', 'dPhLWgbyRp8SIV6iOrAK0Gl3TuN2FYZMmCeakDB9tQEsJHfjqUXxw541nzvo7c', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.', ''); Comment This afternoon Tom Guarriello and I shot the breeze about the Shel Israel puppet story. Sorry, no shownotes for this one. We covered a fair bit of ground: what comic influences do we see here; is the British take on this kind of satire more indulgent; is there a line to be drawn between comedy and bullying; is there a slope and is it slippery. Tom contributes some great cultural context to the backstory. In the end I think I'm mostly laughing and Tom's laughing quite a lot and also feeling a bit queasy. I could well be mistaken. Enjoy. Download the Podcast (24mins, 8MB) Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.obfuscator('LC0RPLCTDL', 'dPhLWgbyRp8SIV6iOrAK0Gl3TuN2FYZMmCeakDB9tQEsJHfjqUXxw541nzvo7c', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.', ''); Comment This afternoon Tom Guarriello and I shot the breeze about the Shel Israel puppet story. Sorry, no shownotes for this one. We covered a fair bit of ground: what comic influences do we see here; is the British take on this kind of satire more indulgent; is there a line to be drawn between comedy and bullying; is there a slope and is it slippery. Tom contributes some great cultural context to the backstory. In the end I think I'm mostly laughing and Tom's laughing quite a lot and also feeling a bit queasy. I could well be mistaken. Enjoy. Download the Podcast (24mins, 8MB) Podcast RSS feed The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.obfuscator('LC0RPLCTDL', 'dPhLWgbyRp8SIV6iOrAK0Gl3TuN2FYZMmCeakDB9tQEsJHfjqUXxw541nzvo7c', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1945.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-11,23265650 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:36:00 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25344763-Knowledge-Management-Apparently Our seventh phoric podcast (originally scheduled for April 1) is out. Rob and I were privileged to host Dr David Vaine of Apparently Knowledge Management. He is a true thought-leader in the area of KM. Hear how his Architecting Space for Sharing (ASS) and Wisdom Managment Programme (WIMP) help businesses avoid the promiscuous knowledge sharing and generally prevent social software from doing anything to disrupt hierarchy. Among the highlights: Dr Vaine explaining the chief virtue of transparency: the ability for everyone to know their place. The insight that "it's really most important to make sure people do not feel comfortable in their own skin" and "if you put people down, put them down humanely". As I say at the end, Dr V really does put the Apparently into KM. Download the Podcast Showing his mastery of the tools, Dr V made his own video of his performance which shows him off to even greater advantage. And thanks to Patrick Lambe for persuading the good Doctor to share his wisd... Our seventh phoric podcast (originally scheduled for April 1) is out. Rob and I were privileged to host Dr David Vaine of Apparently Knowledge Management. He is a true thought-leader in the area of KM. Hear how his Architecting Space for Sharing (ASS) and Wisdom Managment Programme (WIMP) help businesses avoid the promiscuous knowledge sharing and generally prevent social software from doing anything to disrupt hierarchy. Among the highlights: Dr Vaine explaining the chief virtue of transparency: the ability for everyone to know their place. The insight that "it's really most important to make sure people do not feel comfortable in their own skin" and "if you put people down, put them down humanely". As I say at the end, Dr V really does put the Apparently into KM. Download the Podcast Showing his mastery of the tools, Dr V made his own video of his performance which shows him off to even greater advantage. And thanks to Patrick Lambe for persuading the good Doctor to share his wisdom with us. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.obfuscator('xpALFxpVpp', '5A0Bt8skViFa4cmLQUv1CHpEhKynlxqfXNbDeoJIgGTrRwOPd2SWz3YjM9u76Z', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.', ''); Comment Our seventh phoric podcast (originally scheduled for April 1) is out. Rob and I were privileged to host Dr David Vaine of Apparently Knowledge Management. He is a true thought-leader in the area of KM. Hear how his Architecting Space for Sharing (ASS) and Wisdom Managment Programme (WIMP) help businesses avoid the promiscuous knowledge sharing and generally prevent social software from doing anything to disrupt hierarchy. Among the highlights: Dr Vaine explaining the chief virtue of transparency: the ability for everyone to know their place. The insight that "it's really most important to make sure people do not feel comfortable in their own skin" and "if you put people down, put them down humanely". As I say at the end, Dr V really does put the Apparently into KM. Download the Podcast Showing his mastery of the tools, Dr V made his own video of his performance which shows him off to even greater advantage. And thanks to Patrick Lambe for persuading the good Doctor to share his wisdom with us. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.obfuscator('xpALFxpVpp', '5A0Bt8skViFa4cmLQUv1CHpEhKynlxqfXNbDeoJIgGTrRwOPd2SWz3YjM9u76Z', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-11,25344763 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:15:16 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265652-Knowledge-Management-Apparently Our seventh phoric podcast (originally scheduled for April 1) is out. Rob and I were privileged to host Dr David Vaine of Apparently Knowledge Management. He is a true thought-leader in the area of KM. Hear how his Architecting Space for Sharing (ASS) and Wisdom Managment Programme (WIMP) help businesses avoid the promiscuous knowledge sharing and generally prevent social software from doing anything to disrupt hierarchy. Among the highlights: Dr Vaine explaining the chief virtue of transparency: the ability for everyone to know their place. The insight that "it's really most important to make sure people do not feel comfortable in their own skin" and "if you put people down, put them down humanely". As I say at the end, Dr V really does put the Apparently into KM. Download the Podcast Showing his mastery of the tools, Dr V made his own video of his performance which shows him off to even greater advantage. And thanks to Patrick Lambe for persuading the good Doctor to share his wisd... Our seventh phoric podcast (originally scheduled for April 1) is out. Rob and I were privileged to host Dr David Vaine of Apparently Knowledge Management. He is a true thought-leader in the area of KM. Hear how his Architecting Space for Sharing (ASS) and Wisdom Managment Programme (WIMP) help businesses avoid the promiscuous knowledge sharing and generally prevent social software from doing anything to disrupt hierarchy. Among the highlights: Dr Vaine explaining the chief virtue of transparency: the ability for everyone to know their place. The insight that "it's really most important to make sure people do not feel comfortable in their own skin" and "if you put people down, put them down humanely". As I say at the end, Dr V really does put the Apparently into KM. Download the Podcast Showing his mastery of the tools, Dr V made his own video of his performance which shows him off to even greater advantage. And thanks to Patrick Lambe for persuading the good Doctor to share his wisdom with us. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.obfuscator('BF8wUBFrFF', 'GMFXvd3ZVHjPenhS8mDE1RbxLTwWJOBkp2qN95lC6AfKQouUsarcI04yYzig7t', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.', ''); Comment Our seventh phoric podcast (originally scheduled for April 1) is out. Rob and I were privileged to host Dr David Vaine of Apparently Knowledge Management. He is a true thought-leader in the area of KM. Hear how his Architecting Space for Sharing (ASS) and Wisdom Managment Programme (WIMP) help businesses avoid the promiscuous knowledge sharing and generally prevent social software from doing anything to disrupt hierarchy. Among the highlights: Dr Vaine explaining the chief virtue of transparency: the ability for everyone to know their place. The insight that "it's really most important to make sure people do not feel comfortable in their own skin" and "if you put people down, put them down humanely". As I say at the end, Dr V really does put the Apparently into KM. Download the Podcast Showing his mastery of the tools, Dr V made his own video of his performance which shows him off to even greater advantage. And thanks to Patrick Lambe for persuading the good Doctor to share his wisdom with us. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.obfuscator('BF8wUBFrFF', 'GMFXvd3ZVHjPenhS8mDE1RbxLTwWJOBkp2qN95lC6AfKQouUsarcI04yYzig7t', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1942.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-11,23265652 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:15:16 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18357043-The-pitfalls-of-confidentiality tag:odeo.com,2008-04-02,18357043 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:06:55 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/25344764-The-pitfalls-of-confidentiality Annette Clancy's recent post on the pitfalls of confidentiality in client relationships prompted her, Matt Moore and me to record a podcast chat about it this afternoon. Download the Podcast - 29m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed Annette has posted it on her blog and I'm repeating here for regular listeners. Annette's done some good show notes which I'm just copying and pasting them here to save time. Obviously these are a rough guide so don't take them too literally. Thanks to Annette and Matt for a good conversation. Disclaimer: These are a rough summary of the conversation accompanied by flexible/rough timings. 0.0 Annette How important is confidentiality at work? and how much of my product offering as a consultant is the guarantee that whatever is told to me will be held in confidence? Are consultants professional secret keepers? and how much of our work is containing and sanitising misdemeanours offering them back as palatable organisational learnings? What or whom are we minding?... Annette Clancy's recent post on the pitfalls of confidentiality in client relationships prompted her, Matt Moore and me to record a podcast chat about it this afternoon. Download the Podcast - 29m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed Annette has posted it on her blog and I'm repeating here for regular listeners. Annette's done some good show notes which I'm just copying and pasting them here to save time. Obviously these are a rough guide so don't take them too literally. Thanks to Annette and Matt for a good conversation. Disclaimer: These are a rough summary of the conversation accompanied by flexible/rough timings. 0.0 Annette How important is confidentiality at work? and how much of my product offering as a consultant is the guarantee that whatever is told to me will be held in confidence? Are consultants professional secret keepers? and how much of our work is containing and sanitising misdemeanours offering them back as palatable organisational learnings? What or whom are we minding? Introductions How important is confidentiality at work? 0.50 Johnnie Itâ??s â??very importantâ??. It means different things to different people at different times â?? is it a way of addressing status â?? I had to sign an NDA etc. Sometimes itâ??s a status play. It is a way of entrapping the other person in something â?? am I doing you a favour or am I inviting you into a trap? Itâ??s complex isnâ??t it? 2.08 Annette How much of the conversation around confidentiality is in fact a seduction â?? around secrets? 2.18 Matt One way of taking someone into your confidence is to offer them a secret and that has all kinds of levels and layers â?? does it happen once? Several times? And what happens when you break that trust? Matt talks about his role as an internal consultant and how people entrust him with their secrets and the complexity of the messages and seductions contained within those secrets. 5.18 Annette Annette notes that both Matt and Johnnie are talking about â??intimacyâ?? and asks how we set up the conditions for that to take place. Psychoanalyst Adam Phillips talks about how we can set up the conditions for romance but thereâ??s no guarantee that romance will happen â?? what kinds of ploys do Matt and Johnnie use to set up the romantic conditions for intimacy in the workplace? 6.32 Johnnie Johnnie professes his interest in intimacy and his interest in web tools which foster intimacy. Johnnie talks about the shift from confidentiality as control to a more open sharing of information via Open Space and other similar processes. He talks about relinquishing his role as â??consultant confessorâ?? which has become an uncomfortable role. Am I getting in the way by holding a secret? 9.19 Annette What burden is placed on someone designated as â??knowledge managerâ?? to manage hidden knowledge â?? how does Matt manage the externalised â??known knowledgeâ?? with the internalised â??unknownâ??? 9.41 Matt Matt admits to being a hypocrite! The official versus the â??realâ?? version of events often conflict. Matt then goes on to say how hypocrisy works in practice â?? including sanitising stories; the pleasure of being taken into someoneâ??s confidence; the manufacture of intimacy and how hypocrisy functions as a social lubrication. 13.13 Annette Consultants are also politicians in organisations and are we talking here about the context we create (or wish to create) rather than the content of what people are saying? 13.40 Johnnie Creating explicitly â??confidentâ?? scenarios arenâ??t particularly enjoyable and neither do they work. Johnnie talks about how this works in practice. 15.43 Annette There is often an assumption that the stories revealed in confidence have more truth than those revealed in public and also we are not capable of hearing or speaking truth in organisations. Does being an internal consultant add another layer to that mix? 16.23 Matt Openness versus closedness is an interesting concept â?? we need to keep some things private. Matt is often asked to take sides â?? to join a tribe - and secrets are a way of extending this invitation. Matt talks about respecting the invitation while not getting pulled in.. 19.15 Annette Scepticism is useful â?? our relationship with secrets and confidences is influenced by splits good/bad; useful/unhelpful â?? can we strike a balance between them? Respecting what this intervention has to offer for this system? 20.12 Johnnie Explicit confidentiality agreements can serve to shut down the sharing of confidences and sensitive information â?? the opposite is often the case. The paradox here is that less is shared when the discussion is explicit â?? when it becomes ritualised it becomes less effective. Johnnie talks about the difference between hard and soft trust. 22.07 Annette There is a dance in negotiating confidence â?? in removing that dance we give a message that there is apart of me or thoughts I want to share that are unacceptable. 22.48 Johnnie Johnnie asks about what that negotiation means â?? is it explicit? Is it implicit? What does it look like? 23.21 Annette Annette talks about unconscious and non verbal negotiations that invite revelation â?? seeking permission to inquire about someoneâ??s personal story. 23.50 Matt We prefer to have soft trust â?? informal trust but we fall back on hard trust and the rules when that isnâ??t guaranteed and when there are issues of power and status at play. If you are genuinely sharing yourself you make yourself vulnerable and organisations are treacherous placesâ?¦ 25.07 Johnnie Perhaps itâ??s our job to be the ones who are willing to be vulnerable â?? itâ??s easy to revert to rules but itâ??s useful to talk about our own vulnerabilities as it gives permission to those we work with to talk about theirs. 26.16 Annette We have all kinds of things in our consultancy toolkits but feelings are the primary ones that I draw on 26.30 Johnnie Suggests pausing the conversation there for now.. 27.07 Annette Thanks to Matt and Johnnie for sharing their thoughts. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.obfuscator('fLAGLfLAGL', 'dgRBos8mHw59v4paGqOyWebLthcNXzZiU6K07CT3MkSVxl1YEAFPQ2jIfJDnru', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.', ''); Comment Annette Clancy's recent post on the pitfalls of confidentiality in client relationships prompted her, Matt Moore and me to record a podcast chat about it this afternoon. Download the Podcast - 29m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed Annette has posted it on her blog and I'm repeating here for regular listeners. Annette's done some good show notes which I'm just copying and pasting them here to save time. Obviously these are a rough guide so don't take them too literally. Thanks to Annette and Matt for a good conversation. Disclaimer: These are a rough summary of the conversation accompanied by flexible/rough timings. 0.0 Annette How important is confidentiality at work? and how much of my product offering as a consultant is the guarantee that whatever is told to me will be held in confidence? Are consultants professional secret keepers? and how much of our work is containing and sanitising misdemeanours offering them back as palatable organisational learnings? What or whom are we minding? Introductions How important is confidentiality at work? 0.50 Johnnie Itâ??s â??very importantâ??. It means different things to different people at different times â?? is it a way of addressing status â?? I had to sign an NDA etc. Sometimes itâ??s a status play. It is a way of entrapping the other person in something â?? am I doing you a favour or am I inviting you into a trap? Itâ??s complex isnâ??t it? 2.08 Annette How much of the conversation around confidentiality is in fact a seduction â?? around secrets? 2.18 Matt One way of taking someone into your confidence is to offer them a secret and that has all kinds of levels and layers â?? does it happen once? Several times? And what happens when you break that trust? Matt talks about his role as an internal consultant and how people entrust him with their secrets and the complexity of the messages and seductions contained within those secrets. 5.18 Annette Annette notes that both Matt and Johnnie are talking about â??intimacyâ?? and asks how we set up the conditions for that to take place. Psychoanalyst Adam Phillips talks about how we can set up the conditions for romance but thereâ??s no guarantee that romance will happen â?? what kinds of ploys do Matt and Johnnie use to set up the romantic conditions for intimacy in the workplace? 6.32 Johnnie Johnnie professes his interest in intimacy and his interest in web tools which foster intimacy. Johnnie talks about the shift from confidentiality as control to a more open sharing of information via Open Space and other similar processes. He talks about relinquishing his role as â??consultant confessorâ?? which has become an uncomfortable role. Am I getting in the way by holding a secret? 9.19 Annette What burden is placed on someone designated as â??knowledge managerâ?? to manage hidden knowledge â?? how does Matt manage the externalised â??known knowledgeâ?? with the internalised â??unknownâ??? 9.41 Matt Matt admits to being a hypocrite! The official versus the â??realâ?? version of events often conflict. Matt then goes on to say how hypocrisy works in practice â?? including sanitising stories; the pleasure of being taken into someoneâ??s confidence; the manufacture of intimacy and how hypocrisy functions as a social lubrication. 13.13 Annette Consultants are also politicians in organisations and are we talking here about the context we create (or wish to create) rather than the content of what people are saying? 13.40 Johnnie Creating explicitly â??confidentâ?? scenarios arenâ??t particularly enjoyable and neither do they work. Johnnie talks about how this works in practice. 15.43 Annette There is often an assumption that the stories revealed in confidence have more truth than those revealed in public and also we are not capable of hearing or speaking truth in organisations. Does being an internal consultant add another layer to that mix? 16.23 Matt Openness versus closedness is an interesting concept â?? we need to keep some things private. Matt is often asked to take sides â?? to join a tribe - and secrets are a way of extending this invitation. Matt talks about respecting the invitation while not getting pulled in.. 19.15 Annette Scepticism is useful â?? our relationship with secrets and confidences is influenced by splits good/bad; useful/unhelpful â?? can we strike a balance between them? Respecting what this intervention has to offer for this system? 20.12 Johnnie Explicit confidentiality agreements can serve to shut down the sharing of confidences and sensitive information â?? the opposite is often the case. The paradox here is that less is shared when the discussion is explicit â?? when it becomes ritualised it becomes less effective. Johnnie talks about the difference between hard and soft trust. 22.07 Annette There is a dance in negotiating confidence â?? in removing that dance we give a message that there is apart of me or thoughts I want to share that are unacceptable. 22.48 Johnnie Johnnie asks about what that negotiation means â?? is it explicit? Is it implicit? What does it look like? 23.21 Annette Annette talks about unconscious and non verbal negotiations that invite revelation â?? seeking permission to inquire about someoneâ??s personal story. 23.50 Matt We prefer to have soft trust â?? informal trust but we fall back on hard trust and the rules when that isnâ??t guaranteed and when there are issues of power and status at play. If you are genuinely sharing yourself you make yourself vulnerable and organisations are treacherous placesâ?¦ 25.07 Johnnie Perhaps itâ??s our job to be the ones who are willing to be vulnerable â?? itâ??s easy to revert to rules but itâ??s useful to talk about our own vulnerabilities as it gives permission to those we work with to talk about theirs. 26.16 Annette We have all kinds of things in our consultancy toolkits but feelings are the primary ones that I draw on 26.30 Johnnie Suggests pausing the conversation there for now.. 27.07 Annette Thanks to Matt and Johnnie for sharing their thoughts. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.obfuscator('fLAGLfLAGL', 'dgRBos8mHw59v4paGqOyWebLthcNXzZiU6K07CT3MkSVxl1YEAFPQ2jIfJDnru', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-02,25344764 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:06:55 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265654-The-pitfalls-of-confidentiality Annette Clancy's recent post on the pitfalls of confidentiality in client relationships prompted her, Matt Moore and me to record a podcast chat about it this afternoon. Download the Podcast - 29m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed Annette has posted it on her blog and I'm repeating here for regular listeners. Annette's done some good show notes which I'm just copying and pasting them here to save time. Obviously these are a rough guide so don't take them too literally. Thanks to Annette and Matt for a good conversation. Disclaimer: These are a rough summary of the conversation accompanied by flexible/rough timings. 0.0 Annette How important is confidentiality at work? and how much of my product offering as a consultant is the guarantee that whatever is told to me will be held in confidence? Are consultants professional secret keepers? and how much of our work is containing and sanitising misdemeanours offering them back as palatable organisational learnings? What or whom are we minding?... Annette Clancy's recent post on the pitfalls of confidentiality in client relationships prompted her, Matt Moore and me to record a podcast chat about it this afternoon. Download the Podcast - 29m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed Annette has posted it on her blog and I'm repeating here for regular listeners. Annette's done some good show notes which I'm just copying and pasting them here to save time. Obviously these are a rough guide so don't take them too literally. Thanks to Annette and Matt for a good conversation. Disclaimer: These are a rough summary of the conversation accompanied by flexible/rough timings. 0.0 Annette How important is confidentiality at work? and how much of my product offering as a consultant is the guarantee that whatever is told to me will be held in confidence? Are consultants professional secret keepers? and how much of our work is containing and sanitising misdemeanours offering them back as palatable organisational learnings? What or whom are we minding? Introductions How important is confidentiality at work? 0.50 Johnnie Itâ??s â??very importantâ??. It means different things to different people at different times â?? is it a way of addressing status â?? I had to sign an NDA etc. Sometimes itâ??s a status play. It is a way of entrapping the other person in something â?? am I doing you a favour or am I inviting you into a trap? Itâ??s complex isnâ??t it? 2.08 Annette How much of the conversation around confidentiality is in fact a seduction â?? around secrets? 2.18 Matt One way of taking someone into your confidence is to offer them a secret and that has all kinds of levels and layers â?? does it happen once? Several times? And what happens when you break that trust? Matt talks about his role as an internal consultant and how people entrust him with their secrets and the complexity of the messages and seductions contained within those secrets. 5.18 Annette Annette notes that both Matt and Johnnie are talking about â??intimacyâ?? and asks how we set up the conditions for that to take place. Psychoanalyst Adam Phillips talks about how we can set up the conditions for romance but thereâ??s no guarantee that romance will happen â?? what kinds of ploys do Matt and Johnnie use to set up the romantic conditions for intimacy in the workplace? 6.32 Johnnie Johnnie professes his interest in intimacy and his interest in web tools which foster intimacy. Johnnie talks about the shift from confidentiality as control to a more open sharing of information via Open Space and other similar processes. He talks about relinquishing his role as â??consultant confessorâ?? which has become an uncomfortable role. Am I getting in the way by holding a secret? 9.19 Annette What burden is placed on someone designated as â??knowledge managerâ?? to manage hidden knowledge â?? how does Matt manage the externalised â??known knowledgeâ?? with the internalised â??unknownâ??? 9.41 Matt Matt admits to being a hypocrite! The official versus the â??realâ?? version of events often conflict. Matt then goes on to say how hypocrisy works in practice â?? including sanitising stories; the pleasure of being taken into someoneâ??s confidence; the manufacture of intimacy and how hypocrisy functions as a social lubrication. 13.13 Annette Consultants are also politicians in organisations and are we talking here about the context we create (or wish to create) rather than the content of what people are saying? 13.40 Johnnie Creating explicitly â??confidentâ?? scenarios arenâ??t particularly enjoyable and neither do they work. Johnnie talks about how this works in practice. 15.43 Annette There is often an assumption that the stories revealed in confidence have more truth than those revealed in public and also we are not capable of hearing or speaking truth in organisations. Does being an internal consultant add another layer to that mix? 16.23 Matt Openness versus closedness is an interesting concept â?? we need to keep some things private. Matt is often asked to take sides â?? to join a tribe - and secrets are a way of extending this invitation. Matt talks about respecting the invitation while not getting pulled in.. 19.15 Annette Scepticism is useful â?? our relationship with secrets and confidences is influenced by splits good/bad; useful/unhelpful â?? can we strike a balance between them? Respecting what this intervention has to offer for this system? 20.12 Johnnie Explicit confidentiality agreements can serve to shut down the sharing of confidences and sensitive information â?? the opposite is often the case. The paradox here is that less is shared when the discussion is explicit â?? when it becomes ritualised it becomes less effective. Johnnie talks about the difference between hard and soft trust. 22.07 Annette There is a dance in negotiating confidence â?? in removing that dance we give a message that there is apart of me or thoughts I want to share that are unacceptable. 22.48 Johnnie Johnnie asks about what that negotiation means â?? is it explicit? Is it implicit? What does it look like? 23.21 Annette Annette talks about unconscious and non verbal negotiations that invite revelation â?? seeking permission to inquire about someoneâ??s personal story. 23.50 Matt We prefer to have soft trust â?? informal trust but we fall back on hard trust and the rules when that isnâ??t guaranteed and when there are issues of power and status at play. If you are genuinely sharing yourself you make yourself vulnerable and organisations are treacherous placesâ?¦ 25.07 Johnnie Perhaps itâ??s our job to be the ones who are willing to be vulnerable â?? itâ??s easy to revert to rules but itâ??s useful to talk about our own vulnerabilities as it gives permission to those we work with to talk about theirs. 26.16 Annette We have all kinds of things in our consultancy toolkits but feelings are the primary ones that I draw on 26.30 Johnnie Suggests pausing the conversation there for now.. 27.07 Annette Thanks to Matt and Johnnie for sharing their thoughts. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.obfuscator('jL97LjL97L', 'cG290VibHjRnZxOkWaXfpSeFzygK4B8ENm6hMuLr7w5AstQTYPDdUoC3vqJlI1', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.', ''); Comment Annette Clancy's recent post on the pitfalls of confidentiality in client relationships prompted her, Matt Moore and me to record a podcast chat about it this afternoon. Download the Podcast - 29m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed Annette has posted it on her blog and I'm repeating here for regular listeners. Annette's done some good show notes which I'm just copying and pasting them here to save time. Obviously these are a rough guide so don't take them too literally. Thanks to Annette and Matt for a good conversation. Disclaimer: These are a rough summary of the conversation accompanied by flexible/rough timings. 0.0 Annette How important is confidentiality at work? and how much of my product offering as a consultant is the guarantee that whatever is told to me will be held in confidence? Are consultants professional secret keepers? and how much of our work is containing and sanitising misdemeanours offering them back as palatable organisational learnings? What or whom are we minding? Introductions How important is confidentiality at work? 0.50 Johnnie Itâ??s â??very importantâ??. It means different things to different people at different times â?? is it a way of addressing status â?? I had to sign an NDA etc. Sometimes itâ??s a status play. It is a way of entrapping the other person in something â?? am I doing you a favour or am I inviting you into a trap? Itâ??s complex isnâ??t it? 2.08 Annette How much of the conversation around confidentiality is in fact a seduction â?? around secrets? 2.18 Matt One way of taking someone into your confidence is to offer them a secret and that has all kinds of levels and layers â?? does it happen once? Several times? And what happens when you break that trust? Matt talks about his role as an internal consultant and how people entrust him with their secrets and the complexity of the messages and seductions contained within those secrets. 5.18 Annette Annette notes that both Matt and Johnnie are talking about â??intimacyâ?? and asks how we set up the conditions for that to take place. Psychoanalyst Adam Phillips talks about how we can set up the conditions for romance but thereâ??s no guarantee that romance will happen â?? what kinds of ploys do Matt and Johnnie use to set up the romantic conditions for intimacy in the workplace? 6.32 Johnnie Johnnie professes his interest in intimacy and his interest in web tools which foster intimacy. Johnnie talks about the shift from confidentiality as control to a more open sharing of information via Open Space and other similar processes. He talks about relinquishing his role as â??consultant confessorâ?? which has become an uncomfortable role. Am I getting in the way by holding a secret? 9.19 Annette What burden is placed on someone designated as â??knowledge managerâ?? to manage hidden knowledge â?? how does Matt manage the externalised â??known knowledgeâ?? with the internalised â??unknownâ??? 9.41 Matt Matt admits to being a hypocrite! The official versus the â??realâ?? version of events often conflict. Matt then goes on to say how hypocrisy works in practice â?? including sanitising stories; the pleasure of being taken into someoneâ??s confidence; the manufacture of intimacy and how hypocrisy functions as a social lubrication. 13.13 Annette Consultants are also politicians in organisations and are we talking here about the context we create (or wish to create) rather than the content of what people are saying? 13.40 Johnnie Creating explicitly â??confidentâ?? scenarios arenâ??t particularly enjoyable and neither do they work. Johnnie talks about how this works in practice. 15.43 Annette There is often an assumption that the stories revealed in confidence have more truth than those revealed in public and also we are not capable of hearing or speaking truth in organisations. Does being an internal consultant add another layer to that mix? 16.23 Matt Openness versus closedness is an interesting concept â?? we need to keep some things private. Matt is often asked to take sides â?? to join a tribe - and secrets are a way of extending this invitation. Matt talks about respecting the invitation while not getting pulled in.. 19.15 Annette Scepticism is useful â?? our relationship with secrets and confidences is influenced by splits good/bad; useful/unhelpful â?? can we strike a balance between them? Respecting what this intervention has to offer for this system? 20.12 Johnnie Explicit confidentiality agreements can serve to shut down the sharing of confidences and sensitive information â?? the opposite is often the case. The paradox here is that less is shared when the discussion is explicit â?? when it becomes ritualised it becomes less effective. Johnnie talks about the difference between hard and soft trust. 22.07 Annette There is a dance in negotiating confidence â?? in removing that dance we give a message that there is apart of me or thoughts I want to share that are unacceptable. 22.48 Johnnie Johnnie asks about what that negotiation means â?? is it explicit? Is it implicit? What does it look like? 23.21 Annette Annette talks about unconscious and non verbal negotiations that invite revelation â?? seeking permission to inquire about someoneâ??s personal story. 23.50 Matt We prefer to have soft trust â?? informal trust but we fall back on hard trust and the rules when that isnâ??t guaranteed and when there are issues of power and status at play. If you are genuinely sharing yourself you make yourself vulnerable and organisations are treacherous placesâ?¦ 25.07 Johnnie Perhaps itâ??s our job to be the ones who are willing to be vulnerable â?? itâ??s easy to revert to rules but itâ??s useful to talk about our own vulnerabilities as it gives permission to those we work with to talk about theirs. 26.16 Annette We have all kinds of things in our consultancy toolkits but feelings are the primary ones that I draw on 26.30 Johnnie Suggests pausing the conversation there for now.. 27.07 Annette Thanks to Matt and Johnnie for sharing their thoughts. The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.obfuscator('jL97LjL97L', 'cG290VibHjRnZxOkWaXfpSeFzygK4B8ENm6hMuLr7w5AstQTYPDdUoC3vqJlI1', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1935.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-04-02,23265654 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:06:55 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18357013-Podcast-Touch-organisations-and-Capt-Mainwaring tag:odeo.com,2008-03-19,18357013 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:36:00 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265657-Podcast-Touch-organisations-and-Capt-Mainwaring Is touch - physical and emotional - a taboo subject in organisations? Why are we so sensitive about it? What is about things "touchy-feely" that seem to make people, well, touchy? I recorded this podcast earlier today with Patrick Lambe and Mark Earls. Patrick wrote a provocative post on the subject a few weeks ago and I wanted to explore this further. We managed to get into a discussion about lots of things from the tragic to the comic, the latter in the form of a riff on the lessons for management of Dad's Army. No firm conclusions reached, needless to say, but several hobby horses ridden and hopefully ideas provoked for you. Patrick emphasises how controversial touch is, and suggests that some people just don't like it. (We missed the now-obvious Dad's Army link to Corporal Jones' "they don't like it up 'em"). Reflecting on this I'd probably make it about how we are willing to be touched than a blanket do-or-don't, but not sure Patrick would agree. Anyway, hope you find it intere... Is touch - physical and emotional - a taboo subject in organisations? Why are we so sensitive about it? What is about things "touchy-feely" that seem to make people, well, touchy? I recorded this podcast earlier today with Patrick Lambe and Mark Earls. Patrick wrote a provocative post on the subject a few weeks ago and I wanted to explore this further. We managed to get into a discussion about lots of things from the tragic to the comic, the latter in the form of a riff on the lessons for management of Dad's Army. No firm conclusions reached, needless to say, but several hobby horses ridden and hopefully ideas provoked for you. Patrick emphasises how controversial touch is, and suggests that some people just don't like it. (We missed the now-obvious Dad's Army link to Corporal Jones' "they don't like it up 'em"). Reflecting on this I'd probably make it about how we are willing to be touched than a blanket do-or-don't, but not sure Patrick would agree. Anyway, hope you find it interesting and all feedback welcome. Download the Podcast - 27m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed for iPodder etc. Show notes Here are the show notes with my usual health warning: Timings are approximate and this is my paraphrasing of what was said. Don't take them it too literally. 0.00 Intros 0 45 Patrick explains why he wrote about touch in the first place: how knowledge management tends to autism, stripping context and emotion out of human organisation. The case of Victoria Climbie, how government agencies consistently failed to organise a response to the abuse people could see at a personal level. Also recent experiences of how a client responded uncomfortably to handshakes. Organisations seem to avoid touch, and knowledge management is seen as a very rational, disembodied thing. 3 30 Dangers of missing context when thinking about knowledge, eg the emotional context that often drives the process. 4 10 Johnnie contrasts work meetings with friends from social networks - warmer, less linear - and others in more formal organisational settings, which are less warm, apparently more strictly on-topic, but less productive. 6 10 Patrick and Johnnie talk about the word "autistic" to describe how some meetings operate when the sense of contact is missing. 6 40 Mark joins in. "We're scared of what it is to be human in organisations... scared to realise that what we do together is rather more than the bits of information in our heads and the grand abstract ideas we have, and it's rather more to do with just the day-to-day interaction with folk" Touching a really important part of our humanity. Autistic a really useful metaphor. 7 20 Patrick raises Dunbar's idea of language's origins in social grooming. Mark joins in on this - it's why so little of what we say is responsible for the meaning that the listener takes from it. 8 35 Patrick talks about the comments his post received, found them polarised: "That's pretty much how touch works, you either like it or you don't like it... you don't feel neutral about touch." You can fake your language but it's harder to fake your touch. 9 45 Mark: some people would really like to reduce the messiness of human interaction, "ideally to ones and zeroes... because it reduces all ambiguity and all personal risk..." Patrick: and corporates like it because it makes people interchangeable. 10 30 Mark: Most business thinking goes back 100 years to the age of the machine. People find it hard to let go of those ideas which see humans as fundamentally untrustworthy. 11 05 Johnnie: how people are reluctant to own their own response to touch, and prefer instead to moralise about "how things are done round here". That moralising means we lose touch, even with our own feelings. 12 35 Patrick: touch is very significant in the primate context where there are lots of group constraints about what is and isn't ok. In that sense, there are rules. 13 20 Mark: "Professional is everything that human beings aren't... organised, disciplined..." 13 45 Mark brings up the example of Captain Mainwaring from Dad's Army as example of that kind of ineffectual professionalism. Johnnie contrasts Mainwaring with Private Walker the black marketeer who Mainwaring sneers at but goes to sheepishly for his black market needs. Mark also contrasts with Sergeant Wilson who is more at ease touch/feel-wise. 15 40 Patrick: Where does this insecurity (about touch, feel) come from? Mark speculates part of it is just doing what we see those around us doing. How being professional appears to be morally superior although it's "a denial of everything else apart from what goes on betwen our ears". 17 20 Johnnie talks about how social software developments eg Facebook will contribute to a softening of this professional facade; that there will be less of a split between our working persona and our social one. 18 30 Patrick: I think the split might be between the touchers and the non-touchers. Some people just don't want it and others tune into it very easily. Johnnie thinks it's about context; people have different responses to touch in different contexts eg at work vs in the pub. 20 20 Mark: "people do have real lives as opposed to units of resource in a corporation" We might not find it easy to lose our own shackles but may find it easier to be around people who do. That might drive a gradual change. 21 20 Patrick refers back to the dangers of the Victoria Climbie incident repeating: "If we keep our separate lives... the autistic corporate one and the personal one, that problem is always going to be there." 22 40 Mark talks about his experience with Planning for Good. What he finds is he has a personal connection with the people, they want to get involved. If you get proximity and connectedness to a purpose, something happens. 24 00 A few closing comments. 25 27 End The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1924.obfuscator('thXhhtwXtX', 'Rvo1c9LuWsDO4tAFTEpHzNhr6GQZIl5Be8XKCa3fjdmV20J7wSqxUMbiygYnPk', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1924.', ''); Comment Is touch - physical and emotional - a taboo subject in organisations? Why are we so sensitive about it? What is about things "touchy-feely" that seem to make people, well, touchy? I recorded this podcast earlier today with Patrick Lambe and Mark Earls. Patrick wrote a provocative post on the subject a few weeks ago and I wanted to explore this further. We managed to get into a discussion about lots of things from the tragic to the comic, the latter in the form of a riff on the lessons for management of Dad's Army. No firm conclusions reached, needless to say, but several hobby horses ridden and hopefully ideas provoked for you. Patrick emphasises how controversial touch is, and suggests that some people just don't like it. (We missed the now-obvious Dad's Army link to Corporal Jones' "they don't like it up 'em"). Reflecting on this I'd probably make it about how we are willing to be touched than a blanket do-or-don't, but not sure Patrick would agree. Anyway, hope you find it interesting and all feedback welcome. Download the Podcast - 27m - MP3 (9 MB) Podcast RSS feed for iPodder etc. Show notes Here are the show notes with my usual health warning: Timings are approximate and this is my paraphrasing of what was said. Don't take them it too literally. 0.00 Intros 0 45 Patrick explains why he wrote about touch in the first place: how knowledge management tends to autism, stripping context and emotion out of human organisation. The case of Victoria Climbie, how government agencies consistently failed to organise a response to the abuse people could see at a personal level. Also recent experiences of how a client responded uncomfortably to handshakes. Organisations seem to avoid touch, and knowledge management is seen as a very rational, disembodied thing. 3 30 Dangers of missing context when thinking about knowledge, eg the emotional context that often drives the process. 4 10 Johnnie contrasts work meetings with friends from social networks - warmer, less linear - and others in more formal organisational settings, which are less warm, apparently more strictly on-topic, but less productive. 6 10 Patrick and Johnnie talk about the word "autistic" to describe how some meetings operate when the sense of contact is missing. 6 40 Mark joins in. "We're scared of what it is to be human in organisations... scared to realise that what we do together is rather more than the bits of information in our heads and the grand abstract ideas we have, and it's rather more to do with just the day-to-day interaction with folk" Touching a really important part of our humanity. Autistic a really useful metaphor. 7 20 Patrick raises Dunbar's idea of language's origins in social grooming. Mark joins in on this - it's why so little of what we say is responsible for the meaning that the listener takes from it. 8 35 Patrick talks about the comments his post received, found them polarised: "That's pretty much how touch works, you either like it or you don't like it... you don't feel neutral about touch." You can fake your language but it's harder to fake your touch. 9 45 Mark: some people would really like to reduce the messiness of human interaction, "ideally to ones and zeroes... because it reduces all ambiguity and all personal risk..." Patrick: and corporates like it because it makes people interchangeable. 10 30 Mark: Most business thinking goes back 100 years to the age of the machine. People find it hard to let go of those ideas which see humans as fundamentally untrustworthy. 11 05 Johnnie: how people are reluctant to own their own response to touch, and prefer instead to moralise about "how things are done round here". That moralising means we lose touch, even with our own feelings. 12 35 Patrick: touch is very significant in the primate context where there are lots of group constraints about what is and isn't ok. In that sense, there are rules. 13 20 Mark: "Professional is everything that human beings aren't... organised, disciplined..." 13 45 Mark brings up the example of Captain Mainwaring from Dad's Army as example of that kind of ineffectual professionalism. Johnnie contrasts Mainwaring with Private Walker the black marketeer who Mainwaring sneers at but goes to sheepishly for his black market needs. Mark also contrasts with Sergeant Wilson who is more at ease touch/feel-wise. 15 40 Patrick: Where does this insecurity (about touch, feel) come from? Mark speculates part of it is just doing what we see those around us doing. How being professional appears to be morally superior although it's "a denial of everything else apart from what goes on betwen our ears". 17 20 Johnnie talks about how social software developments eg Facebook will contribute to a softening of this professional facade; that there will be less of a split between our working persona and our social one. 18 30 Patrick: I think the split might be between the touchers and the non-touchers. Some people just don't want it and others tune into it very easily. Johnnie thinks it's about context; people have different responses to touch in different contexts eg at work vs in the pub. 20 20 Mark: "people do have real lives as opposed to units of resource in a corporation" We might not find it easy to lose our own shackles but may find it easier to be around people who do. That might drive a gradual change. 21 20 Patrick refers back to the dangers of the Victoria Climbie incident repeating: "If we keep our separate lives... the autistic corporate one and the personal one, that problem is always going to be there." 22 40 Mark talks about his experience with Planning for Good. What he finds is he has a personal connection with the people, they want to get involved. If you get proximity and connectedness to a purpose, something happens. 24 00 A few closing comments. 25 27 End The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1924.obfuscator('thXhhtwXtX', 'Rvo1c9LuWsDO4tAFTEpHzNhr6GQZIl5Be8XKCa3fjdmV20J7wSqxUMbiygYnPk', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1924.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-03-19,23265657 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:36:00 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18356993-Phoric-6 tag:odeo.com,2008-03-18,18356993 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:21:37 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/23265659-Phoric-6 Rob and I chatted to Matt Moore on the Phoric yesterday. Matt's a bit of a force of nature and our 10 minute format went out the window! Matt also went down the music video route and some clips I would never normally look at - but they are very thought-provoking. In the chat we talk around how the net meets a basic human urge to "yes, and" each other's offers. Download the Podcast The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1923.obfuscator('HbH0eH0He1', 'V3JrSGlC2bi0mMdjaIuqReTUPzsgkwn758Wo9ONEKZ1YQfXchtDFHAL6pyBxv4', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1923.', ''); Comment Rob and I chatted to Matt Moore on the Phoric yesterday. Matt's a bit of a force of nature and our 10 minute format went out the window! Matt also went down the music video route and some clips I would never normally look at - but they are very thought-provoking. In the chat we talk around how the net meets a basic human urge to "yes, and" each other's offers. Download the Podcast The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1923.obfuscator('HbH0eH0He1', 'V3JrSGlC2bi0mMdjaIuqReTUPzsgkwn758Wo9ONEKZ1YQfXchtDFHAL6pyBxv4', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1923.', ''); Comment Rob and I chatted to Matt Moore on the Phoric yesterday. Matt's a bit of a force of nature and our 10 minute format went out the window! Matt also went down the music video route and some clips I would never normally look at - but they are very thought-provoking. In the chat we talk around how the net meets a basic human urge to "yes, and" each other's offers. Download the Podcast The trackback link for this entry is: http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1923.obfuscator('HbH0eH0He1', 'V3JrSGlC2bi0mMdjaIuqReTUPzsgkwn758Wo9ONEKZ1YQfXchtDFHAL6pyBxv4', '__MTTBLINK__', 'http://www.johnniemoore.com/mt/minotaur.cgi/1923.', ''); Comment tag:odeo.com,2008-03-18,23265659 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:21:37 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18356973-More-Hugh-and-the-Rabbi tag:odeo.com,2008-03-17,18356973 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:27:36 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18356953-Euan-s-Phoric tag:odeo.com,2008-03-10,18356953 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:38:46 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18356933-Love tag:odeo.com,2008-02-26,18356933 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:56:42 -0800 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/18356913-Podcast-marketing-bananas-and-more tag:odeo.com,2008-01-06,18356913 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:12:12 -0800 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/11388023-Podcast-The-impact-of-images tag:odeo.com,2007-04-10,11388023 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:14:33 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/7203843-The-language-of-facilitation tag:odeo.com,2007-01-28,7203843 Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:23:51 -0800 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/1496645-Fireside-chat-with-Lisa-Haneberg tag:odeo.com,2006-07-14,1496645 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:18:36 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/1321114-Talkin-co-creation tag:odeo.com,2006-06-09,1321114 Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:15:11 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/1086642-Prosper-another-eBay-for-money tag:odeo.com,2006-04-18,1086642 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:24:35 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/1014909-Podcast-Zopa-Revisited tag:odeo.com,2006-02-13,1014909 Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:23:44 -0800 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/1014908-Stormhoek-The-Podcast tag:odeo.com,2006-01-25,1014908 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:23:23 -0800 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/85277-Podcast-English-Cut tag:odeo.com,2005-07-12,85277 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:11:29 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/80604-Podcast-interview-with-the-founders-of-Zopa tag:odeo.com,2005-07-09,80604 Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:31:17 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/80606-Podcast-Unconferencing tag:odeo.com,2005-07-04,80606 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:43:26 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/80605-Blowfly-Podcast tag:odeo.com,2005-06-23,80605 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:19:12 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts http://www.odeo.com/episodes/1014907-Podcast-interview-with-the-founders-of-Zopa tag:odeo.com,2005-04-04,1014907 Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:29:05 -0700 no Johnnie Moore's Weblog Podcasts